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Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:40 pm
by smusic 00
PlanoStang wrote:
MustangStealth wrote:
PlanoStang wrote: I wondered where this rumor that JJ pencils in losses came from. We had coach McCarty telling us we were 2 TDs down before we started the game. If that wasn't "penciling in a loss against xxxx", then I don't know what is :?: And back then game scores were usually like 21-14.

We won that game, and district :!: SMU won the SWC a year later :!: Coach McCarty later became AD at SFA :!:
Telling your team to play with a sense of urgency as if they were behind is in no way the same as telling them "I expect you guys to lose".

And look at the results! As you admit yourself, your team won, June's team lost. Have you figured out yet which one is a more effective message for a coach to deliver :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :idea: :!: :idea: :?: :!: :idea: :!:
Could be if he was trying to use anger as a motivator. That no good sunuva... Thinks we're no good... We'll show his a** a thing or 2.

I think this was RIDICULOUSLY taken outta context by the JJ haters on here.
Do you even understand the context he said it in? This was a remark at the end of the season at his weekly film session (at Ozona's...in public). He was going through the season game by game and said that he had expected to lose to Rice, in fact he had 'penciled it in' before the season began.

That is a FACT.

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:12 pm
by CenTXpony
smusic 00 wrote:
PlanoStang wrote:
MustangStealth wrote: Telling your team to play with a sense of urgency as if they were behind is in no way the same as telling them "I expect you guys to lose".

And look at the results! As you admit yourself, your team won, June's team lost. Have you figured out yet which one is a more effective message for a coach to deliver :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :idea: :!: :idea: :?: :!: :idea: :!:
Could be if he was trying to use anger as a motivator. That no good sunuva... Thinks we're no good... We'll show his a** a thing or 2.

I think this was RIDICULOUSLY taken outta context by the JJ haters on here.
Do you even understand the context he said it in? This was a remark at the end of the season at his weekly film session (at Ozona's...in public). He was going through the season game by game and said that he had expected to lose to Rice, in fact he had 'penciled it in' before the season began.

That is a FACT.
PlanoStang probably wasnt there but he knows better than anyone what June meant....

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:20 am
by PlanoStang
Telling your team to play with a sense of urgency as if they were behind is in no way the same as telling them "I expect you guys to lose".

And look at the results! As you admit yourself, your team won, June's team lost. Have you figured out yet which one is a more effective message for a coach to deliver :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :idea: :!: :idea: :?: :!: :idea: :!:[/quote]

Could be if he was trying to use anger as a motivator. That no good sunuva... Thinks we're no good... We'll show his a** a thing or 2.

I think this was RIDICULOUSLY taken outta context by the JJ haters on here.[/quote]

Do you even understand the context he said it in? This was a remark at the end of the season at his weekly film session (at Ozona's...in public). He was going through the season game by game and said that he had expected to lose to Rice, in fact he had 'penciled it in' before the season began.

That is a FACT.[/quote]

PlanoStang probably wasnt there but he knows better than anyone what June meant....[/quote]

In the world of hear say, things get left out, somtimes on purpose if the writer has an
agenda :!:

Perhaps the captain really said " I had expected we COULD to lose to Rice, and I
'penciled it in' once the season began.

Keyword HERE is PENCILED :!: :!: :!: :!:

Unkown to the jerky 20 somethings on here is that in the corporate world, penciled in means
EASILY ERASABILE :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:05 am
by Mustangsabu
Thank you! While I think that June was foolish to say it, what he was expressing was that when looking at the schedule, as has been talked about here, he looks for the first 6 wins. He breaks the season up into quarters to reach a bowl game and he obviously in the case of the game against Rice, down in Houston, did not see that as a must W. That is what he meant. He is not giving up before a game.

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:01 am
by CA Mustang
CenTXpony wrote:.....they look intimidated every time we play someone somewhat decent.
I haven't seen many closeup shots before a game. If true, that's more a reflection on the players than anything else.

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:15 am
by CenTXpony
Mustangsabu wrote:Thank you! While I think that June was foolish to say it, what he was expressing was that when looking at the schedule, as has been talked about here, he looks for the first 6 wins. He breaks the season up into quarters to reach a bowl game and he obviously in the case of the game against Rice, down in Houston, did not see that as a must W. That is what he meant. He is not giving up before a game.
That's a real champions mentality... just win 6 and everything after that is a bonus! Oh there's a conference championship game??? Is it in Hawaii? Oh it's not? Well no thank you then I'll just stick to six wins!

Assuming what you just said is the true case as to how June thinks..then I want June gone in the next minute....seriously? The rice game wasnt a must win??? It put us at 5-6 with a tough Tulsa team following in which we beat them by half a yard. The well is running dry for y'all to go to...

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:42 am
by Grant Carter
PlanoStang wrote:Telling your team to play with a sense of urgency as if they were behind is in no way the same as telling them "I expect you guys to lose".

And look at the results! As you admit yourself, your team won, June's team lost. Have you figured out yet which one is a more effective message for a coach to deliver :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: :idea: :!: :idea: :?: :!: :idea: :!:
Could be if he was trying to use anger as a motivator. That no good sunuva... Thinks we're no good... We'll show his a** a thing or 2.

I think this was RIDICULOUSLY taken outta context by the JJ haters on here.[/quote]

Do you even understand the context he said it in? This was a remark at the end of the season at his weekly film session (at Ozona's...in public). He was going through the season game by game and said that he had expected to lose to Rice, in fact he had 'penciled it in' before the season began.

That is a FACT.[/quote]

PlanoStang probably wasnt there but he knows better than anyone what June meant....[/quote]

In the world of hear say, things get left out, somtimes on purpose if the writer has an
agenda :!:

Perhaps the captain really said " I had expected we COULD to lose to Rice, and I
'penciled it in' once the season began.

Keyword HERE is PENCILED :!: :!: :!: :!:

Unkown to the jerky 20 somethings on here is that in the corporate world, penciled in means
EASILY ERASABILE :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:[/quote]
I agree that people put too much into the pencil in comment here, but I believe smusic is the person who asked the question that elicited the response so he is not relying on hearsay as far as what June said.


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Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:19 am
by Stallion
The Great Pencil-Gate Argument of 2013

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:50 am
by mrydel
18 penciled in remarks have been erased.

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:26 pm
by feelthehorsepower
Topper wrote:
SMU2007 wrote:
Dukie wrote: By the way, David Cutcliffe gets all the "let's build him a statue" love he could want. Those who followed the Bennett/JJ transition know that Cut was hired at Duke the same year JJ was hired here, and Cut has taken Duke to all of one bowl game, a crappy bowl in uninspiring Charlotte last year, which they lost on a stupid fumble late in the fourth. But he really cares about the school, has delivered a few nice regular-season wins, and his teams show up ready to compete.
Agree with CenTx. If we played an ACC schedule, we would still be in our bowl drought.
C-USA has been a big drawback to our recruiting. I'm not saying that we would have been to 4 bowls if we had been in a BCS conference over the past few years, but we would definitely find a bigger, better pool of players who would be interested in coming here.
I wouldn't say being in a non P5 conference really hurts recruiting because TCU and Boise State were recruiting at P5 levels. It's the quality of your facilities, the coaching staff, school culture/fans etc. as well as who they play with. SMU can have a reputable, top 25 program without being in a BCS conference. It will be harder to get into a bowl but it doesn't mean you can recruit good classes and win football games.

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:07 pm
by Stallion
being non-BCS definitely hurts recruiting-but that's not what critics are complaining about. We are complaining about the lack of communication with recruits and high school coaches, charting the recruiting crop and follow-up with recruits. Basically lazy recruiting. If you don't have access to recruiting services you aren't getting the full picture

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:10 pm
by mrydel
And an extra $15-20 million a year helps some too.

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:23 pm
by Dooby
Yes we have attendance problems. Lots of schools have attendance issues.

Amon carter stadium for Kansas at TCU :

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/statu ... 2341515264

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:40 pm
by lwjr
Dooby wrote:Yes we have attendance problems. Lots of schools have attendance issues.

Amon carter stadium for Kansas at TCU :

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/statu ... 2341515264
Headed to the State Fair my [deleted]

Re: Gerald Ford needs to be renovated

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:14 pm
by PlanoStang
20 somethings KNOW EVERYTHING :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:


Not :!:

Seems lotsa froggies weren't there to start, or went home at halftime.

Over the years TCU will become the bottom feeders of B12, along with
Baylor again after their coach leaves for :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: