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Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:23 pm
by Stallion
Proposition: Does Chad Morris give SMU the best chance to get the Program to an Access Bowl Level Program?
Answer: Yes there is no one that would word harder, recruit better under the circumstances and has the Offensive Coaching skills to get us there. Ron Meyer didn't have any recruiting classes in the top half of the SWC in his first 3 years. The test is what Morris can do recruiting off of a Bowl Game with 7-8 wins. Now is not the time to surrender. Don't pull a UH and hire AppleBowden or Levine. Invest in the only real asset this Program has-Chad Morris. A relatively small investment could finally yield a great Dividend in next 2 years. Make your best offer-and let the chips fall where they may.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:30 pm
by Puckhead48E
StallionsModelT wrote:And by Dodge logic Tulsa shouldΓÇÖve given Montgomery a five year extension at 4-5M a year last year before going 2-9 in the third year of his program.
Lunacy.
Who did he interview with, what were their perceived offers, and what responsive package list did Montgomery provide to Tulsa last December?
If the answer is "I don't know" for any of those, then the real answer is "momma says I have too many teef in my head, so I have an ornery medulla oblongata and I am angry like an alligator."
Anyone can throw baseless claims out there then reference them as proof of their point...doesn't make you correct. Just makes others correct when they suggest that you are yelling in an empty closet to make yourself feel good.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 pm
by footballdad
Stallion wrote:UCF is now offering Frost more than 4 Million a year-I bet they'd go higher to keep him.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/u ... story.htmlMemphis is similarly working on a big raise for Norvell-details were not disclosed by local paper but they pointed out that Memphis offered a 1.1 Million raise to 2.5 Million to his predecessor 3 years ago
https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/mem ... ke-norvellCrickets about whether SMU making any attempts to keep Morris at that "great job" as SMT reports where he can live in Highland Park, recruit outside his front porch and keep his kid at HP where he'll probably start next year. If its just a great job give Morris something to think about-maybe he waits 1-2 years before jumping to an even better job
Frost is 11-0, Norvell is 10-1...........THEY have actually earned it.
If Morris does next year, what these guys have done....then he might get his raise. If not, then you can whine until your hearts content.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:06 pm
by StallionsModelT
A relatively small invest is $5M.
What a time to be alive.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:21 pm
by SMU Football Blog
Chad is the highest paid G5 coach. More important to show commitment with facilities and commitment to marketing. That is what Chad should be leveraging to get.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:24 pm
by Puckhead48E
SMU Football Blog wrote:Chad is the highest paid G5 coach. More important to show commitment with facilities and commitment to marketing. That is what Chad should be leveraging to get.
Winner winner!
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:38 pm
by peruna81
SMU Football Blog wrote:Chad is the highest paid G5 coach. More important to show commitment with facilities and commitment to marketing. That is what Chad should be leveraging to get.
ala Jimbo Fisher?
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:42 pm
by StallionsModelT
Scott Frost and Mike Norvell have their teams in position to win a conference championship. Chad Morris was three inches away from 5th place in the AAC West and sone of yΓÇÖall want to bulldoze the statue of Doak for Chad.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:04 pm
by PonySnob
StallionsModelT wrote:Scott Frost and Mike Norvell have their teams in position to win a conference championship. Chad Morris was three inches away from 5th place in the AAC West and sone of yΓÇÖall want to bulldoze the statue of Doak for Chad.
Heard Turner would like to put a fountain there!
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:00 pm
by ponypatrick
Stallion wrote:Now you are getting to the point-compare and contrast TCU repeatedly raising Franchione/Patterson's contracts as shot across bow of schools attempting to steal your best personnel with SMU officials who don't appear to have any appetite for what it would cost to keep Morris. Obviously SMU isn't going to fight to keep Morris like TCU did to keep their Coaches when they were non-P5. Note the schools with targeted Head Coaches offering to raise their targeted coaches salary to keep them. I saw in recent days Oregon, Purdue, UCF, Memphis and others being pro-active in trying to keep their coach. There is not a word out of SMU about efforts to retain Morris despite his name being mentioned with regard to at least 3-7 jobs. Once again SMU doesn't measure up to TCU
If you think you got the right guy-Pay him
It took us about 25 years to find him
All we really found was a good Offensive Coordinator who has been on the lookout for his next job ever since he got here.
HCCM has shown so far that he is clueless when it comes the defensive side of the ball ! We are overpaying him now !
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:08 pm
by SMU_Alum11
We donΓÇÖt have the money. Unless someone knows the rich donors, we are capped at his salary right now with maybe 10% wiggle room. Sadly being private university, we need either ton of decently rich donors, uber rich donors or multiple corporate sponsors. I believe FedEx covers Memphis sports program and being public, they have tax payers covering their academics.
With regards to TCU, they must have had a mix of numerous decently rich donors and uber rich donors. IΓÇÖm sure if SMU had the same available capital, we would tell give Morris an incentive package (comp increase based on recruiting class ranking, record goals, etc. To conclude, I think we are tapped out hence no IPF, etc.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:25 pm
by footballdad
ponypatrick wrote:Stallion wrote:Now you are getting to the point-compare and contrast TCU repeatedly raising Franchione/Patterson's contracts as shot across bow of schools attempting to steal your best personnel with SMU officials who don't appear to have any appetite for what it would cost to keep Morris. Obviously SMU isn't going to fight to keep Morris like TCU did to keep their Coaches when they were non-P5. Note the schools with targeted Head Coaches offering to raise their targeted coaches salary to keep them. I saw in recent days Oregon, Purdue, UCF, Memphis and others being pro-active in trying to keep their coach. There is not a word out of SMU about efforts to retain Morris despite his name being mentioned with regard to at least 3-7 jobs. Once again SMU doesn't measure up to TCU
If you think you got the right guy-Pay him
It took us about 25 years to find him
All we really found was a good Offensive Coordinator who has been on the lookout for his next job ever since he got here.
HCCM has shown so far that he is clueless when it comes the defensive side of the ball ! We are overpaying him now !
If Stallion was the AD at Bama, he would fire Saban, and hire Morris for 12 million per year!
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:34 am
by lollaperuna
ponypatrick wrote:Stallion wrote:Now you are getting to the point-compare and contrast TCU repeatedly raising Franchione/Patterson's contracts as shot across bow of schools attempting to steal your best personnel with SMU officials who don't appear to have any appetite for what it would cost to keep Morris. Obviously SMU isn't going to fight to keep Morris like TCU did to keep their Coaches when they were non-P5. Note the schools with targeted Head Coaches offering to raise their targeted coaches salary to keep them. I saw in recent days Oregon, Purdue, UCF, Memphis and others being pro-active in trying to keep their coach. There is not a word out of SMU about efforts to retain Morris despite his name being mentioned with regard to at least 3-7 jobs. Once again SMU doesn't measure up to TCU
If you think you got the right guy-Pay him
It took us about 25 years to find him
All we really found was a good Offensive Coordinator who has been on the lookout for his next job ever since he got here.
HCCM has shown so far that he is clueless when it comes the defensive side of the ball ! We are overpaying him now !
This post is the definition of clueless in the dictionary. Look it up.
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:02 am
by ponyinNC
I feel like we have gotten off topic here. Assuming arguendo, Chad leaves - who are the legitimate candidates?
Pie in the sky-
Kevin Sumlin (he will have better offers)
Retired but looking-
Les Miles
Lower-profile HC's
Frank Wilson, UTSA
Neal Brown, Troy (former asst at LSU and TT
Blake Anderson, Ark St
Current P5 assistants-
Brent Venables, Clemson
Tony Elliot, Clemson
Jake Spavital, former TAMU and current WVU
Mike Yurcich, OKie ST
Sonny Cumbie, TCU
Re: Who are we going to hire?
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:38 am
by SMU Football Blog
Brent Venables would be a unique fit for our situation. Coached at OU. Played at K-State. Very familiar with the offense we run at SMU because of Morris and Clemson.