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Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:43 pm
by ponyboy
Look at the front page of Dallasnews.com right now if you have any question about what this hire would do for SMU football
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:44 pm
by smupony94
Slow news day
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:46 pm
by fifty
Mac brown for 4 years is cheaper than a good ipf. Do it. Do it now.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:47 pm
by coloradoStang
They just gave two sentences about it on the rundown in PTI on ESPN. When was the last time we have ever been mentioned on PTI? I want mack.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:49 pm
by LA_Mustang
ponyboy wrote:Yes it is. Love the steak analogy.
Ha! Thanks. As much as our product has to be rebuilt, so does our image. I can't think of a more qualified person to do that Mack. What are this program's two biggest issues? Recruiting and support. Mack is the best closer around and as Sherrington said in the DMN, Mack could sell ice to an eskimo.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:49 pm
by sbsmith
coloradoStang wrote:They just gave two sentences about it on the rundown in PTI on ESPN. When was the last time we have ever been mentioned on PTI? I want mack.
June Jones hiring, 2009 Hawaii Bowl, June Jones resignation, LBs hiring, LB during last basketball season.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:52 pm
by coloradoStang
sbsmith wrote:coloradoStang wrote:They just gave two sentences about it on the rundown in PTI on ESPN. When was the last time we have ever been mentioned on PTI? I want mack.
June Jones hiring, 2009 Hawaii Bowl, June Jones resignation, LB during last basketball season.
Exactly. That's my point. If we want to build this brand we need the exposure.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:52 pm
by ponydawg
coloradoStang wrote:They just gave two sentences about it on the rundown in PTI on ESPN. When was the last time we have ever been mentioned on PTI? I want mack.
When Larry Brown was leaked to the media about the SMU job......
http://www.ponyfans.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60662&p=814433&hilit=larry+brown#p814433
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:53 pm
by Harry0569
GiddyUp wrote:I know plenty of UT fans and they say hell no. Pay up and comer $2M. Waste of money. At least its not mine.
Agreed.
The contract being floated is wayyyyyy too long (granted CoC can spend their money how they please).
In general, I am against hiring retread coaches because for better or worse you know what you're going to get. Why would Mack Brown take the SMU job for anything other than a $4M/yr paycheck? Also his coaching tree / staff at UT was wayyyyyyy under-whelming, so I am not hopeful that he brings in a quality staff.
From Shaggy Bevoo:
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthr ... ching-Tree It pretty much sucks. You'd think that a guy, making more $ than any HC in 'Merica and "with a lot of 10-win seasons", who has been coaching for almost 30 years would have a great coaching tree lineage under him, but it's not the case.
To me this is exhibit A in the case against him as to why he isn't fit to turn this program around. Not only is he not training players to maximize their potential, he is not training his coaches enough to maximize their potential.
His tree underlings:
Sparky Woods
John Palermo
Ron Cooper
Greg Davis
Joe Philbin (shouldn't count; he coached under MB at Tulane as a GA back in the 80s)
Carl Torbush
Tim Brewster
$#@! Tomey (again, shouldn't count. He's 13 years older than MB and surely didn't learn a thing from MB)
Greg Robinson
Gene Chizik
Will Muschamp
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:57 pm
by sbsmith
coloradoStang wrote:
Exactly. That's my point. If we want to build this brand we need the exposure.
Mack Brown isn't the only coach that could get us exposure. Just like any other coach he's going to have to win or all that exposure will go away.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:02 pm
by ponydawg
Prior to Brown's arrival, the Texas Longhorns had an 11-year record of 72-54-2
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:03 pm
by sbsmith
Harry0569 wrote:His tree underlings:
Sparky Woods
John Palermo
Ron Cooper
Greg Davis
Joe Philbin (shouldn't count; he coached under MB at Tulane as a GA back in the 80s)
Carl Torbush
Tim Brewster
$#@! Tomey (again, shouldn't count. He's 13 years older than MB and surely didn't learn a thing from MB)
Greg Robinson
Gene Chizik
Will Muschamp
My word that's a sad little tree. I'm sure it'll get better though, Mack's fan club told me so.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:07 pm
by mrydel
Harry, would you advise your UT friends to take advice from Ponyfans posters?
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:09 pm
by Rebel10
LA_Mustang wrote:It proves how delusional our fan base is to believe hiring Mack Brown is a bad idea. It's like offering a starving man a steak and he says "no thanks, I prefer chicken."
This not 2007 and we are not starving men. We have very good options this time. No more overpaid mercenaries. 8 year contract with no exit clause, no way.
Re: Report: Mack Brown: 8 years @ 4mil/yr
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:18 pm
by couch 'em
Mack Brown has far out performed every UT coach in history except Royal and matches up well with him. Not your first choice? Great. Worried he doesmt have the fire anymore? Valid concern. Think MB sucks? You are clueless.