Doherty At the Nelson

Pony_Fan · Post by **Pony_Fan** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:34 pm

hoopfan wrote:i don't know which ones, i just know that they failed some classes this year and because of that they can't play next year, so doherty is still scrambling to get guards for next year

Is this a rumor or fact? Roberts, Killen, Dez?

MustangIcon · Post by **MustangIcon** » Mon May 15, 2006 6:45 pm

By my count we have 4 guards returning next year, including ponyfan favorite Matt Williams who essentially did not play last season. It seems to me that Epps plays a lot more like a 3 and would be considerd a wing player as opposed to a guard. Im sorry but I have a hard time believing that Tubbs would allow 3/4 of his backcourt to be in danger of being academically ineligible. Throw Morris into the equation (supposedly his grades played a big role in him leaving) and that would mean Tubbs had allowed 4 of 10 returning players to become serious grade risks. I simply cannot believe that the man was that clueless when it comes to his players.

White Helmet · Post by **White Helmet** » Tue May 16, 2006 6:59 am

Dont forget that friarwolf tells us that Bamba also has grade problems so make that 5 of 10, were shooting for that passing 70% grade.

ALEX LIFESON · Post by **ALEX LIFESON** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:13 am

We may have to go to , 3 on 3 :wink:

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:19 am

Have we got any tall rowers or horsey riders that can double up on the BB court? Or maybe we can borrow some of Rhonda's ladies.

MustangIcon · Post by **MustangIcon** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:36 am

Thankfully I didn't use any eligibilty while in school. Im sure MD will be calling any day now. :lol:

White Helmet · Post by **White Helmet** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:39 am

Once you enroll you start using eligibility regardless of actually playing.

Danny Noonan · Post by **Danny Noonan** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:48 am

White Helmet wrote:Once you enroll you start using eligibility regardless of actually playing.

Let me guess, you've never seen "Necessary Roughness?"

You might want to watch it just to brush up on your NCAA rules knowledge. Pay specific attention to the Sinbad character.

White Helmet · Post by **White Helmet** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:39 am

I actually own the movie. I wouldn't consider it a NCAA rule book.

MustangIcon · Post by **MustangIcon** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:52 am

I wouldn't consider it a rule book either but I believe if you were in school for 2 years and THEN joined a sports team you would have 4 full years of eligibility- not 2 as your rules would suggest. Someone please correct me if there has been some sort of rule change or if I am flat out wrong.

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:56 am

It seems like BYU gets a ton of older players who have returned from their missionary journeys and may have had a year or two of JUCO before going to knock on doors and ride bicycles.

White Helmet · Post by **White Helmet** » Tue May 16, 2006 10:00 am

14.2 SEASONS OF COMPETITION: FIVE-YEAR RULE
A student-athlete shall not engage in more than four seasons of intercollegiate competition in any one
sport (see Bylaws 14.02.6 but also see 14.3.2). An institution shall not permit a student-athlete to represent
it in intercollegiate competition unless the individual completes all of his or her seasons of participation
in all sports within the time periods specified below:
14.2.1 Five-Year Rule. A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five
calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered
for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services,
on official church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being
excepted. For foreign students, service in the armed forces or on an official church mission of the student’s
home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.
14.2.1.1 Determining the Start of the Five-Year Period. For purposes of starting the count of time
under the five-year rule, a student-athlete shall be considered registered at a collegiate institution
(domestic or foreign; see Bylaw 14.02.3) when the student-athlete initially registers in a regular term
(semester or quarter) of an academic year for a minimum full-time program of studies, as determined
by the institution, and attends the student’s first day of classes for that term (see Bylaw 14.2.2).
14.2.1.2 Service Exceptions to the Five-Year Rule. Time spent in the armed services, on official
church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government is excepted from
the application of the five-year rule. Among such services that qualify a student-athlete for an
extension of the five-year rule are:
(a) Military Sea Transport Service;
(b) Peace Corps; or
(c) Service as a conscientious objector ordered by the Selective Service Commission (or the equivalent
authority in a foreign nation) in lieu of active military duty.

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Tue May 16, 2006 10:19 am

Haven't some of you guys been on church missionary journeys trying to save lost souls in bars across the U.S.?