Derek Lilly commits

HFvictory · Post by **HFvictory** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:26 am

As mentioned, coaches recruit by areas and more specifically by school. Relationship building is huge and would be impossible to do if you recruited by position. College recruiters will offer all different incentives (perfectly legal) to HS coaches such as on campus camps, etc to build the relationship with the staffs and kids.

Your best recruiters are your best relationship builders not your best talent evaluators.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:28 pm

exactly-which is what seems to be missing the most on Bennett's staff. I've always thought both Bennett and of course the TCU staff do an excellent job of evaluation. TCU closes twice as many deals. This is Bennett's 6 th recruiting class-enough excuses-he should have built those relationship to allow him to compete with TCU and others by now. If not now when?

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:34 pm

Stallion wrote:exactly-which the what seems to be missing to most on Bennett's staff. I've always thought both Bennett and of course the TCU staff do an excellent job of evaluation. TCU closes twice as many deals. This is Bennett's 6 th recruiting class-enough excuses-he should have built those relationship to allow him to compete with TCU and others by now. If not now when?

well Stallion will tell you the 'when' can come only when the model is fixed & it's more than just Bennett. Oh, wait, I see it is Stallion that posed the question...

2112 · Post by **2112** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:34 am

Uh oh, the morning news list him at 6'2, not a good sign when he has shrunk and inch in a few days. Probably he is 6'1, I am starting to subsribe to the Stallion theory.

Big10Ponyfan · Post by **Big10Ponyfan** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:01 am

Stallion wrote:exactly-which is what seems to be missing the most on Bennett's staff. I've always thought both Bennett and of course the TCU staff do an excellent job of evaluation. TCU closes twice as many deals. This is Bennett's 6 th recruiting class-enough excuses-he should have built those relationship to allow him to compete with TCU and others by now. If not now when?

Again, you have the chance to apply for one of those 2 recruiting position on Bennett's. Since you have done such great homework as to why his recruiting philosophy is tanking, apply and interview for the job, tell them what's going on, and they'll hire you.

You do such a nice job taking shots from the sidelines but when it comes to really stepping up and being counted in recruiting circles, suddenly you don't want to go down that road.

PhirePhilBennett · Post by **PhirePhilBennett** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:59 am

Stallion wrote:exactly-which is what seems to be missing the most on Bennett's staff. I've always thought both Bennett and of course the TCU staff do an excellent job of evaluation. TCU closes twice as many deals. This is Bennett's 6 th recruiting class-enough excuses-he should have built those relationship to allow him to compete with TCU and others by now. If not now when?

We just put off the inevitable for another year.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:10 pm

New information on Lilly today by Rivals. I believe I'm correct that previously they only listed him with an offer from SMU and Colorado St. They have now added offers from Washington St., Louisiana Tech and North Texas in addition to SMU and Colorado St.

Post by **PonyPride** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:51 pm

His coach said he ran a 5.02 in the 40 at 285 pounds -- not bad at all. Benches over 400.

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:24 pm

So he had one BCS offer from a PAC -10 program. Given Stallion's usual view that BCS offers are a good indicator of the worth of a player, then this should increase his rating in Stallion's eyes although Washington State was not a world beater this year.