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Re: BOWDEN! BOWDEN! BOWDEN! BOWDWN!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:48 pm
by NewPonyFan
Pony Fan wrote:TheRealTruth wrote:I'm acting like I'm 10, but I'm desperate. I love SMU Football too much to see it destroyed by you people who are content with 1-11 seasons.
Bowden is not even on the LONG list, so forget about him. When again was the last time he coached? There is a reason for that.
The reason being that he went into broadcasting and wouldn't even take an interview all these years.
Broadcasting games for a bunch of years sure didn't do [deleted] Vermeil any good, did it?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:59 pm
by TheRealTruth
Bowden is going to be a pony. live with it
Re: BOWDEN! BOWDEN! BOWDEN! BOWDWN!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:02 pm
by SmooBoy
NewPonyFan wrote:
Broadcasting games for a bunch of years sure didn't do [deleted] Vermeil any good, did it?
Probably not the best argument you can come up with as Vermeil led the Rams to their first ever Super Bowl victory in Super Bowl XXXIV.
Or maybe I sense some sarcasm...
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:25 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
I too am hoping Orsini works his magic and hires someone that will make people all over the country go:
"wow....how did they do that?....better look out for SMU......they will soon be back in the mix".
I appreciate TheRealTruth's passion for excellence and refusing to accept less. I sure hope TheRealTruth is right and this is a very different hire than the last few. However if it is Krag, well I suppose it will be an improvement over what we have and I will support him and hope for some improvement. Heck even if a guy only wins 7-8 games a year for a couple of years....SMU would come to life and seem like a different place.
Re: BOWDEN! BOWDEN! BOWDEN! BOWDWN!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:27 pm
by NewPonyFan
SmooBoy wrote:NewPonyFan wrote:
Broadcasting games for a bunch of years sure didn't do [deleted] Vermeil any good, did it?
Probably not the best argument you can come up with as Vermeil led the Rams to their first ever Super Bowl victory in Super Bowl XXXIV.
Or maybe I sense some sarcasm...
Ya think?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:40 pm
by TheRealTruth
Can't accept Krag or anyone for that matter that is a no name or not a proven winner at the highest level. The problem I invision is that someone like Krag will eventually get lucky and get us to a toilet bowl... then we think we're back, Krag heads to an SEC school, SMU hires Nebraskas Offensive Cord, and we're back to square one. Bottom Line: I don't want to patch the problem, I want fundamental change.
A Bowden type Hire does 3 important things:
1. Tells the Country, Media, and Recruits that SMU isn't F-ING around anymore.
2. Shows that SMU has a commitment to Excellence, not just average play and that we want to be a MAJOR despite our conferance.
3. Increase the national profile of the school and make SMU more of a National University. I mean it would be pretty cool (despite your politcal views) to have the Bush Library, a Top 25 Football team, and Top Basketball team all at once.
I don't care whether people like sports or not but Football is the ambasador of your school in the 21st century. It's important to have a winner in that spot and not a truck driver.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:27 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
TheRealTruth I hope Orsini has the exact same attitude as you do.....and actually I think he does.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:36 pm
by TheRealTruth
Insane Pony, I just hope you're right. I mean let me tell what has pissed me off more then anything. I've been living in the north east for the last several years and I would say there is about a 15% chance someone has heard of SMU. The sad part is, most have heard of TCU and you know what, it's not because TCU is a better school. In fact we all know TCU is nothing more then a collection of Bomb shelters on a campus. No, the reason people know of TCU is because of their recent success of a football team. It's given them major national exposure. So, hopefully Orsini does sees this.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:20 pm
by Pony Fan
TheRealTruth wrote:Can't accept Krag or anyone for that matter that is a no name or not a proven winner at the highest level. The problem I invision is that someone like Krag will eventually get lucky and get us to a toilet bowl... then we think we're back, Krag heads to an SEC school, SMU hires Nebraskas Offensive Cord, and we're back to square one. Bottom Line: I don't want to patch the problem, I want fundamental change.
A Bowden type Hire does 3 important things:
1. Tells the Country, Media, and Recruits that SMU isn't F-ING around anymore.
2. Shows that SMU has a commitment to Excellence, not just average play and that we want to be a MAJOR despite our conferance.
3. Increase the national profile of the school and make SMU more of a National University. I mean it would be pretty cool (despite your politcal views) to have the Bush Library, a Top 25 Football team, and Top Basketball team all at once.
I don't care whether people like sports or not but Football is the ambasador of your school in the 21st century. It's important to have a winner in that spot and not a truck driver.
All of these reasons are why we won't hire Bowden.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:09 am
by jtstang
I just saw Terry Bowden pushing a shopping cart full of cardboard boxes down McCommas this morning. What does it all mean???
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:11 am
by SmooBoy
Perhaps one of his selling points is that he will bring new (cardboard) fans to Ford.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:04 am
by mustangxc
TheRealTruth wrote:Can't accept Krag or anyone for that matter that is a no name or not a proven winner at the highest level. The problem I invision is that someone like Krag will eventually get lucky and get us to a toilet bowl... then we think we're back, Krag heads to an SEC school, SMU hires Nebraskas Offensive Cord, and we're back to square one. Bottom Line: I don't want to patch the problem, I want fundamental change.
A Bowden type Hire does 3 important things:
1. Tells the Country, Media, and Recruits that SMU isn't F-ING around anymore.
2. Shows that SMU has a commitment to Excellence, not just average play and that we want to be a MAJOR despite our conferance.
3. Increase the national profile of the school and make SMU more of a National University. I mean it would be pretty cool (despite your politcal views) to have the Bush Library, a Top 25 Football team, and Top Basketball team all at once.
I don't care whether people like sports or not but Football is the ambasador of your school in the 21st century. It's important to have a winner in that spot and not a truck driver.
While I like your passion, life is not black and white. What's to say that if Bowden comes here he doesn't leave the first time a big program comes after him. You are assuming that all the big names would stay here long term and all the up-and-comers would leave at the first opportunity. While I wouldn't be thrilled with Kragthorpe either, he would be a step in the right direction. Once we get to consistently winning 8 games a season we can attract better talent and a Chris Petersen might actually consider moving from a Boise State to SMU. Every coaching hire a university makes is extremely important. That said, I agree that it would behoove SMU to hire a lightning rod coach to step up its recruiting efforts.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:05 am
by TheRealTruth
News Flash for this morning: Bowden is lock.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:06 am
by mrydel
TheRealTruth wrote:News Flash for this morning: Bowden is lock.
If he is I am delighted. If he is not I will still support my team.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:06 am
by mustangxc
mrydel wrote:TheRealTruth wrote:News Flash for this morning: Bowden is lock.
If he is I am delighted. If he is not I will still support my team.
Agreed!