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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:08 am
by BrianTinBigD
Just the added benefit that the Froggies and Aggies would hate us even more makes FRAN a great hire in my opinion. Think how great life would be to have a coach that 2 in state rivals absolutely despise. Throw in the fact that he can actually coach and we just might have a winner.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:11 am
by FWMustangGirl
Stallion wrote:yeah TCU fans saying Fran is a mistake-why because he broke their hearts. Big Deal. I don't live under such illusions of fidelity in College Coaches. What complaint could a TCU fan possibly have with Coach Fran except that he left.


Broke their hearts so much that Fatterson has continued to succeed with the team? I'd understand your statement more if Froggie High had tanked when Fran left. Unfortunately, they haven't totally fallen apart.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:18 am
by BRStang
BIGHORSE wrote:If we are the last school to hire a coach then there

will be the rest of the available coaches all

looking at S.M.U.


Right, looking at SMU and saying to themselves, "I think I will wait to see what comes available next year. I really like these speaking engagements and motivational seminars anyway."

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:21 am
by 35straight
NO FRAN!!!! NOT NOW. NOT EVER. MY AGGIE BUDDIES ARE LAUGHING THEIR HEADS OFF AT THE FACT THAT WE ARE EVEN CONSIDERING THIS GUY. WHAT THE HELL ARE WE THINKING?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:23 am
by FWMustangGirl
BrianTinBigD wrote:Just the added benefit that the Froggies and Aggies would hate us even more makes FRAN a great hire in my opinion. Think how great life would be to have a coach that 2 in state rivals absolutely despise. Throw in the fact that he can actually coach and we just might have a winner.


That's what I am trying to tell you. There isn't much sentiment among the TCU folks that would think it anything but funny or sad that we ended up with Fran.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:32 am
by BRStang
If we hire Fran now, I think I will be sicker than if we hired any other coach we could have had 3 or 4 weeks ago. Not simply because it is Fran, but we would have lost out on the biggest upside to hiring him: his connections with recruits. At that point, I think Orsini gets put in the category of Copeland.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:35 am
by 35straight
If we hire fran, I want "dibs" on the handle "FireFran".

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:35 am
by Mr Froggiewoggie
FWMustangGirl wrote:
Stallion wrote:yeah TCU fans saying Fran is a mistake-why because he broke their hearts. Big Deal. I don't live under such illusions of fidelity in College Coaches. What complaint could a TCU fan possibly have with Coach Fran except that he left.


Broke their hearts so much that Fatterson has continued to succeed with the team? I'd understand your statement more if Froggie High had tanked when Fran left. Unfortunately, they haven't totally fallen apart.


Fran got luckier than Brad Pitt in a womens' prison at TCU-- his defensive coordinator came with him to Fort Worth, and he inherited a fullback named LaDainian Tomlinson and moved him to tailback.

When that tailback graduated, Fran fled. And wrecked Alabama in record time. He made it out just before the pitchforks, and proceeded to do absolutely nothing at College Station.

Except cheat.

Haven't y'all have been burned by cheating enough to know better than to do it again?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:39 am
by LakeHighlandsPony
BRStang wrote:If we hire Fran now, I think I will be sicker than if we hired any other coach we could have had 3 or 4 weeks ago. Not simply because it is Fran, but we would have lost out on the biggest upside to hiring him: his connections with recruits. At that point, I think Orsini gets put in the category of Copeland.


Great Point! More importantly we could have got some JUCO's in here.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:42 am
by jimhagle
Agreed-no Fran please-the guy is one of the least imaginative coaches in the country. And he did nothing at A&M-please SteveO you can do better!

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:44 am
by Nacho
Fran was 17-8 at Alabama. More made up "facts" from the frogs.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:47 am
by Stallion
TCU fans. Here's the deal-while Fran was at TCU he recruited better than any non-BCS team in the country. Period. And I'm not just talking out my [deleted] on recruiting like many. He left the cupboard full. Sour Grapes. Fran brought both of the greatest Coaches in modern TCU History. As for Aggie decommits-we weren't going to get any of them anyway but I'll concede it would have been better 4 weeks ago.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:47 am
by Peruna94&07
This seems like an interesting dilemma. Just one day ago the worst thing Orsini could do was hire Coker, now it is Fran. At this point we need a proven coach period. I think they both have the pros and definitely cons.

Let's just S$%t or get off the pot

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:48 am
by SMUstang
Stallion wrote:yeah TCU fans saying Fran is a mistake-why because he broke their hearts. Big Deal. I don't live under such illusions of fidelity in College Coaches. What complaint could a TCU fan possibly have with Coach Fran except that he left.


Because he doesn't care anything about his programs or his athletes. He only cares about himself and big $$$. If you don't believe TCU, just ask the folks at Alabama or even College Station.

I would much prefer Coker or Barnett to Fran. Hands down.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:49 am
by ponyinNC
My biggest problem w/ hiring Fran (aside from looking like bottom-feeders to TCU and A&M fans) is that we could have had him weeks ago. Same with Coker. It makes no sense, and I have to agree with the Bolg's latest entry that our search is REALLY going badly.

Here is my (uninformed) list of Orsini's first choices:

1. PJ (gone to GT)
2. Krags (stays at UL)
3. June Jones (who knows?)
4. Neuheisel (looks like UCLA)
5. Calhoun (stays at AF)

I am sure there are others that Orsini aimed for that simply denied us. And now, b/c there is nobody left, we are interviewing the guys we could have had weeks ago.

Solution: Either go ahead and hire one of these retreads and just get it over with, or Orsini needs to go begging for more $ to add to the war chest and make a run at that "mystery" candidate that will blow our socks off.

Or hire Norm Chow.