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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:13 pm
by SoCal_Pony
Duke Blue Blood wrote:None of the other prospects showed or have the relationship June does with Hawaii as a community and UH.
The other guys were more drifters than a "marked guy".
So you would prefer a 'Drifter' to JJ because in 5 years the 'Drifter' is more likely to stay?
I truly believe SMU's commitment to winning is much more important than its coach.
Apparently we now have BOTH...so let's sit back and enjoy the ride.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:14 pm
by StangEsq
I do believe that Jones was quoted as saying he wanted ths job to be his last job... and he wasn't asked that as a question, it was just a statement made offhand.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:20 pm
by jtstang
Duke Blue Blood wrote:AGAIN..happy to have him...just making a CORRECT observation.
DBB
No, your are not making a correct observation, you're just being an @ss. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Your observation depends entirely on the passage of time, five years according to your prediction. At the very best, and it is very tenuous to say the least given that his letters to friends published in the HI paper over the weekend, you can say your observation might turn out to be correct in the future. Correct observation my @ss.....
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:39 pm
by OC Mustang
For the first year in California, I couldn't get back to Texas fast enough. A few years out there, and I lament trading South Orange County for my hometown, no matter how comfortable it is. Home is what you make of it.
Jones will be fine. He will build friendships here, and hopefully we all will experience a magical ride; hell, I'd take a less-than-magical-but-still-cool-ride. SMU will deal with the future when it becomes the present. Right now, why does this matter?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:55 pm
by originaloverthehilltop1
"I Agree! Clearly the loser/victim mentallity must be removed from this fan base. Enough already. This is a new day. I promise you we could have GJF hire Pete Carroll, transfer in every single player from USC, win the national championship and some of you guys would still find a way to complain."
wait a minute! pete carroll isn't an smu guy!
Re: June Jones had a "For Rent" Sign
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:06 pm
by PhirePhilBennett
Duke Blue Blood wrote:While I am as excited as anyone about this hire, the one thing I do not like is it feels like we have hired and outside consultant to come and help our company perform better.
We have a five-year deal with this consultant, but he is not really a Mustang, but just a Rainbow Warrior dressed up like a Mustang. Do not be surprised when Hawaii gets their act together and then June goes back to them to retire (with all new facilities). It will take them 5-Years to do that.
No doubt I will take it and he will leave us in a better place...but he is still a UH guy.
DBB
and that would suck after we are in a bowl how exactly?
Re: June Jones had a "For Rent" Sign
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:08 pm
by WildBillPony
Duke Blue Blood wrote: just a Rainbow Warrior dressed up like a Mustang. Do not be surprised when Hawaii gets their act together and then June goes back to them to retire (with all new facilities). It will take them 5-Years to do that.
DBB
Looking ahead 5 years from now, I can only allude to the immortal words of Johnny Cash:
"I could dress up like a Rainbow every single day,
But then I'd have to prove that I'm not gay"
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:11 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
Good grief Duke Blue Blood do you have so little confidence?
Frankly if we are full steam ahead in five years it won't be the
end of the world if June Jones retires that far down the road.
But don't under-sell Dallas & SMU.
June may love it here too.
I personally would not move to Hawaii over Dallas.
Wouldn't even consider it.
Also you assume Hawaii is going to get all the top notch
state of the art facilities when reality clearly states
otherwise and is 100% cheap talk at this point.
"Yeah we lost June Jones lets go build a beautiful stadium,
practice field, new weight room, and offices".....yeah sure..
again TALK IS CHEAP......it's a big "if" any or all of that will be
done in 5 years. Talking about it and it getting done are two
different things.
Orsini isn't an "SMU GUY" either......Orsini played and went
to Notre Dame......you think Steve "Rudy" Orsini does not
love the University of Notre Dame?.....But that doesn't mean
Steve Orsini is not very committed to SMU and helping all of us
get to where we want to be. If ND offered Orsini the AD job
he may take it.....thats what life and business is all about....
there are no guarantees....it's part of the game....most teams
except Penn State deal with it.....success is getting the most out
of your team and then always have talented people in the
pipeline.....June Jones leaves in 5-7?....well if we are winning
we'll find another good coach......thats life.
Like Mrydel said....Fran, Bowden, Slick Rick, were not SMU guys either.
The guy has been with SMU 24 hours and people are worrried
he may leave in a few years.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:17 pm
by ALEX LIFESON
Oh no, the sky is already falling!
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:21 pm
by Texas Red
I'll take the 5-year rental. If that's the worst case scenario, then it's a great deal.
Who knows what the future holds for JJ. What about the old saying, "you can't go home again." He may love the [hopefully] new football culture at SMU. Then again, the underdog in him may seek out another reclamation project. If that's the case, then we've won.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:25 pm
by George S. Patton
Let's also keep in mind that the coaching profession is one of the most, if not the most transient professions going. To have a coach with you for five years is an eternity in this day.
Guys like Mack Brown and Bob Stoops and Purdue's Joe Tiller and the recently retired Michigan's Lloyd Carr are the exception.
It might be the lack of air conditioning at Cameron finally getting to our Dukie brethren after all these years.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:29 pm
by MrMustang1965
George S. Patton wrote:Guys like Mack Brown and Bob Stoops and Purdue's Joe Tiller and the recently retired Michigan's Lloyd Carr are the exception.
...and Joe Paterno.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:30 pm
by George S. Patton
MrMustang1965 wrote:George S. Patton wrote:Guys like Mack Brown and Bob Stoops and Purdue's Joe Tiller and the recently retired Michigan's Lloyd Carr are the exception.
...and Joe Paterno.
And Florida State's Bobby Bowden
I better be careful. This list is going to take off and then my argument will blow up.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:31 pm
by Texas Red
And Joe Tiller's just about gone.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:32 pm
by Duke Blue Blood
This not a JUNE JONES ATTACK.
This is not a SKY is FALLING.
I am VERY happy with this hire.
I was pointing out and it is STILL CORRECT. His heart is in Hawaii. Nothing more, nothing less. STOP reading into it.
As I have stated in all the other posts. Great hire, he will win, he will make SMU a better place. BUT he is still a Hawaii guy. That is all.
I didn't realize this site grew long hair and put on a skirt. Stop being so sensitive.
DBB