Men's basketball non-conference schedule announced

George S. Patton · Post by **George S. Patton** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:34 am

Houston or UAB could have made the tournament last year but each shot itself in the foot by a late-season collapse.

papawasamustang · Post by **papawasamustang** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:22 pm

I'm not concerned @ all with our RPI.
I just want to see us play a good schedule with a couple of Big 12 or SEC schools coming to Moody. The A&M game is a good start.
I would love to see Arkansas, Baylor, UT, Tech, Okla State, OU or LSU added to the 2009-10 season ( 2 of them since A&M will be on the schedule)
I'm predicting that the Mavs will be in decline (unless big trade) & the city of Dallas will be ripe for big time college basketball in 09-10.

Pony_Fan · Post by **Pony_Fan** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:40 pm

Mr. Patton - you need to relax. It's a weak schedule. If we see this again next year, not good at all.

mathman · Post by **mathman** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:40 pm

Won't our attendance have to get much better before some of the big name teams would be willing to come here? Or does attendance not affect the money they get?

Pony_Fan · Post by **Pony_Fan** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:51 pm

mathman wrote:Won't our attendance have to get much better before some of the big name teams would be willing to come here? Or does attendance not affect the money they get?

You get attendance by scheduling Texas Tech, Baylor, Wake Forest, Arkansas, Oklahoma, etc like we've had in the past. Unfortunately, the other schools outattend us all the time..ha.

SoCal_Pony · Post by **SoCal_Pony** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:38 am

Any idea why we are not playing Pepperdine?

I was told by a very reliable source that we would be playing them in SoCal at the end of this year.

MustangIcon · Post by **MustangIcon** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:27 am

SoCal_Pony wrote:Any idea why we are not playing Pepperdine?

I was told by a very reliable source that we would be playing them in SoCal at the end of this year.

Not as reliable as you thought I guess huh? :lol:

PoconoPony · Post by **PoconoPony** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:58 pm

This is a very poor schedule which generates little fan/student interest, puts no bodies/$$$ in the seats, has little media interest and does not serve the team well. Losing to any of these teams causes the loss of program credibility and does little to enhanse the experience, development and skill level of the players who must then face considerably better teams even in C-USA. Teams must learn to "play up" to better competition even if means losing before learning to win. This type of a schedule does not go unnoticed by higher level recruits. If you were a top level recruit would you be impressed with this pre-season schedule and give SMU any serious consideration? Frankly, it is a bit of embarrassment and almost a public admission that the program is second rate and not very competitive

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:21 pm

MustangIcon wrote:Texas A&M on the schedule is a nice step in the right direction as far as a marketable opponent is concerned.

This could be the most important game of the year IMO. A&M has absolutely dominated us in recruiting Dallas over the past few years. Last year, I believe 7 of their top 10 players were DISD or Dallas suburban kids. A&M should out recruit us in football, but not in b-ball.

George S. Patton · Post by **George S. Patton** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:19 pm

PoconoPony wrote:This is a very poor schedule which generates little fan/student interest, puts no bodies/$$$ in the seats, has little media interest and does not serve the team well. Losing to any of these teams causes the loss of program credibility and does little to enhanse the experience, development and skill level of the players who must then face considerably better teams even in C-USA. Teams must learn to "play up" to better competition even if means losing before learning to win. This type of a schedule does not go unnoticed by higher level recruits. If you were a top level recruit would you be impressed with this pre-season schedule and give SMU any serious consideration? Frankly, it is a bit of embarrassment and almost a public admission that the program is second rate and not very competitive

SoCal_Pony · Post by **SoCal_Pony** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:31 pm

MustangIcon wrote:
SoCal_Pony wrote:Any idea why we are not playing Pepperdine?

I was told by a very reliable source that we would be playing them in SoCal at the end of this year.

Not as reliable as you thought I guess huh?

Apparently not...it was directly from the coaching staff.

Mile High Mustang · Post by **Mile High Mustang** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:04 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:Any idea why we are not playing Pepperdine?

I was told by a very reliable source that we would be playing them in SoCal at the end of this year.

That's a bummer. My folks live in Malibu and would have loved to catch the game while visiting.

The XtC · Post by **The XtC** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:00 am

[quote="mathman"]Won't our attendance have to get much better before some of the big name teams would be willing to come here? Or does attendance not affect the money they get?[/quote]

When 2 teams play home and home, the home team keeps it's own gate reciepts. Ex: Colorado kept the income for all ticket sales when SMU went to their gym last year, and in exchange we keep all ticket revenue from the game at Moody this year.

When teams dont give a return, the home team pays the visitor a flat fee, which is negotiated when the game is scheduled. Attendance has no bearing. This wouldnt affect "top" teams, though, since they would never consider playing at another schools homesite, without a return game in their own gym.

mathman · Post by **mathman** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:07 am

The XtC wrote:
mathman wrote:Won't our attendance have to get much better before some of the big name teams would be willing to come here? Or does attendance not affect the money they get?

When 2 teams play home and home, the home team keeps it's own gate reciepts. Ex: Colorado kept the income for all ticket sales when SMU went to their gym last year, and in exchange we keep all ticket revenue from the game at Moody this year.

When teams dont give a return, the home team pays the visitor a flat fee, which is negotiated when the game is scheduled. Attendance has no bearing. This wouldnt affect "top" teams, though, since they would never consider playing at another schools homesite, without a return game in their own gym.

thanks. I wasn't sure how it worked.

CarMichael · Post by **CarMichael** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:11 am

^You best help your conference-mates get bids by making the top 50 or top 100 RPI, which is probably out of reach this year. If you can't do that, you help your conference-mates boost their own RPI by posting a decent winning percentage, since opponents' W% is the biggest factor in RPI. So playing patsies isn't hurting anything at this point. Conference average RPI is not significant-- the ACC was #1 last year but only got four bids. It looks like a pretty smart schedule to me. There's a chance of beating Colorado and Northwestern. People would notice these wins, even though those teams might finish below the middle of CUSA.

After SMU takes another step up, it would be helpful to start avoiding teams that will have a bad losing record. I'm sure Doh knows how to play the RPI. He looks to the angles.