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Stallion wrote:A few years? No we are no where close unless a few means 4-5. We are going to have to really upgrade recruiting for Jones to beat TCU before he retires in 5 years.

Isn't that what most of us expected? You guys can rag on TCU all you want, but they did, and are continuing to do, what is necessary to upgrade their program and win games. We are starting to move in that direction. We have hired a good coach, but more importantly we have elimimated a lot of the recruiting inequities we placed on ourselves. I am not writing the season off just yet. Went to the Tech game and going to the Navy game. I am going to enjoy the ride even if it kills me.

mathman wrote:

Stallion wrote:A few years? No we are no where close unless a few means 4-5. We are going to have to really upgrade recruiting for Jones to beat TCU before he retires in 5 years.

Isn't that what most of us expected? You guys can rag on TCU all you want, but they did, and are continuing to do, what is necessary to upgrade their program and win games. We are starting to move in that direction. We have hired a good coach, but more importantly we have elimimated a lot of the recruiting inequities we placed on ourselves. I am not writing the season off just yet. Went to the Tech game and going to the Navy game. I am going to enjoy the ride even if it kills me.

The perfect attitude. It's going to get worse before it gets better especially when this staff is turning the program completely inside out.

And I don't about the close games we lost last year. We still LOST.

Some of you have to decide if you are going to be in this for the long haul or if you're going to bail out.

I think a lot of you talked yourselves into thinking this was going to be Hawaii II because of how close some of the losses were last year. Some of you who are bemoaning the JW decision were the ones who were patting June on the back because he suspended star players in his first year at Hawaii.

Again, I'm really indifferent about this. Justin Willis is our best QB. But what's done is done. And I don't see him getting on the field any more this season. We're four games into moving on.

When you're doing this much, you're going to take a step back.

We might complain about Mitchell, but I sat next to some TCU fans who know how good their defense is. They were impressed with how well Mitchell hung there, kept getting and doing his job.

When a program changes philosophy, you have to get everything internally resolved before you get everything on the field solved. If you don't, then success will never happen.

By Jones doing what he did with JW, that was a reminder of doing the necessary internal things to create a cohesive program.

It's painful but we have to see where this leads us. For those who are loyal to the program, we don't have any other choice.

Junior wrote:
Sooner by 45, at least.

What a [deleted].

45, eh?

Not a chance.

Unlike some, I hope the Frogs bury OU again. TCU is a rival, not an enemy. The BSC is the enemy.

PonySnob wrote:

Peruna94&07 wrote:You realize this isn't a Horned Lizard board right? I would agree if the lizards play like they did against us the Mustangs next week they will get walloped.

If we play like we did against TCU, we will get walloped by Tulane on Thursday.................it is hard to believe that SMU fans can throw any smack at TCU regarding its football program. What is our record against teams from BCS conferences in the last 10 years? How many winning seasons have we had? How many bowl games have we been to? SMU football should be striving to be more like the TCU football program as clearly they are doing something right over in Ft Worth.

I always knew that PonySnob was a froggie troll, now he shows it with his quick defense of the toads.

BUS wrote:Got to meet and give REEDfrog a hug. Good man.

We did not show well. Did not play well and yes, we need to do better.

June Jone is a proven winner. In my mind at least.

We will compete and whoop some Frog butt in the future.

Thanks BUS - look forward to seeing you in Ft Worth next year. I still just can't believe Willis is not starting. From the outside looking in, it just makes no sense to me. Good luck at Tulane.

George S. Patton wrote:The result was predictable, but the bottom line is I didn't go to TCU. For that, I will always be grateful.

I'll wager that we are grateful for that as well.

I'll wager TCU should take what they can get, graudate wise. Your football team is strong (although we may not be the best metric for determing that) but your university actually moved down several spots in the rankings recently, below Baylor even. Not a good trend.

You will have at least three loses this year (which I would love to someday say about SMU) - BYU, Utah and OU by a bunch.

TCU is a quality program. I don't see their QB as a dynamic player who can take their team to the next level although getting Brown back will help. Defense is outstanding. They'll get to take their swings at the Big Boys. Not predicting victory, but I do feel they are not too far off from being a Top 25 team. All those teams better come ready to play. I would put them behind BYU and ahead of Utah at this point.