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ponyinNC wrote:so they are trying to get another home game...like i stated in my post.

Yes. Another home game for them plus they can schedule a sure win in front of the faithful - everyone's happy. They get a win and make a zillion dollars while paying us whatever the buyout is (probably less than $500k).

Sort of like the reason it didn't make any sense for SMU to schedule UNT years ago (pre-Dodge) when they much better than us. Very little to gain. You win and everyone says you should have, you lose and you've got egg on your face. Plus, as mentioned elsewhere, they're already getting exposure in their Arkansas game at JerryWorld.

I would fully expect A&M to try buy out of that 2012 game in Ford. If I'm reading the schedule right, we have 7 home games that year so it has another Hawaii trip written all over it...provided the Aggie$ and Hawaii fund the trip.

I think A&M would be smart to buy out SMU. In this day with the power conferences and especialy AM in the pecking order, they need every home game and against the weakest teams to get their four nonconference wins and then hopefully beat Baylor and a couple of Big 12 North teams to have a bowl-bound team and to buy time for Sherman to build his program. Personally, even though I admire Sherman, I think it is a program that is standing still while Baylor is cutting the gap dramatically and TT has already passed them. The Big 12 South is close to becoming like the SEC. Every week is a killer. SMU needs to do like FSU and Bobby Bowden did to get their program jump-started. Go on the road to play the top teams in the country. Nobody expects you to win so every victory pays off tenfold. Maybe even start our own "big-win cemetary".

Awww Aggy is getting scared....

smuuth wrote:I think A&M would be smart to buy out SMU. In this day with the power conferences and especialy AM in the pecking order, they need every home game and against the weakest teams to get their four nonconference wins and then hopefully beat Baylor and a couple of Big 12 North teams to have a bowl-bound team and to buy time for Sherman to build his program. Personally, even though I admire Sherman, I think it is a program that is standing still while Baylor is cutting the gap dramatically and TT has already passed them. The Big 12 South is close to becoming like the SEC. Every week is a killer. SMU needs to do like FSU and Bobby Bowden did to get their program jump-started. Go on the road to play the top teams in the country. Nobody expects you to win so every victory pays off tenfold. Maybe even start our own "big-win cemetary".

SMU (Jones) didn't want Arkansas last year in Memphis. (Then ECU gave the Hogs all they wanted and more.)
SMU needs to start that "big-win cemetery" - soon.

mr. pony wrote:

smuuth wrote:I think A&M would be smart to buy out SMU. In this day with the power conferences and especialy AM in the pecking order, they need every home game and against the weakest teams to get their four nonconference wins and then hopefully beat Baylor and a couple of Big 12 North teams to have a bowl-bound team and to buy time for Sherman to build his program. Personally, even though I admire Sherman, I think it is a program that is standing still while Baylor is cutting the gap dramatically and TT has already passed them. The Big 12 South is close to becoming like the SEC. Every week is a killer. SMU needs to do like FSU and Bobby Bowden did to get their program jump-started. Go on the road to play the top teams in the country. Nobody expects you to win so every victory pays off tenfold. Maybe even start our own "big-win cemetary".

SMU (Jones) didn't want Arkansas last year in Memphis. (Then ECU gave the Hogs all they wanted and more.)
SMU needs to start that "big-win cemetery" - soon.

Sept. 5 sounds good.

Is anyone familiar with the terms of a typical non-conference agreement? For instance, if A&M wants to buyout SMU, is the amount clearly stated in the agreement or is it subject to negotiation?

Mexmustang wrote:Is anyone familiar with the terms of a typical non-conference agreement? For instance, if A&M wants to buyout SMU, is the amount clearly stated in the agreement or is it subject to negotiation?

The buyout amount is usually agreed to beforehand and is included in most contracts.

Here's an example of what Auburn would have to pay to buyout future non-con games: http://www.decaturdaily.com/detail/52468.html

has anyone thought of the scheduling of the Big 12 in 2012? If that conference goes to a 9 game conference schedule, they will lose a NC game, and i'm sure we are the cheapest contract to get out of. just a thought...

Stallion wrote:remember too they have an annual game in North Texas against Arkansas every year-isn't it a 10 year contract or so

I think so. It is more than a little disheartening to me that JJ is running a Big 12-SEC conference of his own out there in Arlington. Teams such as A&M and Arkansas have little incentive to play us or TCU for that matter at our home venues. There was a time when we were the only game in town if you wanted to promise your recruits a travel game to Dallas. That carrot would lure in a lot of big schools that travel well to Ford. Alas, it is no more.

It's not JJ's job to protect the home dates of SMU and TCU. It is SMU's job to get to the point that it could play a game in that stadium and be a decent draw like TCU is this year against Oregon State on Sept. 4.

there is another factor that may affect our scheduling with all Big 12 teams like A&M, Tech and Baylor-the Big 12 will play an extra conference game leaving one less out of conference game availiable. Most of them will probably be scheduled as a home game

WSGJ wrote:It's not JJ's job to protect the home dates of SMU and TCU. It is SMU's job to get to the point that it could play a game in that stadium and be a decent draw like TCU is this year against Oregon State on Sept. 4.

It's not JJ's job, but it shows very little class to invade the territory of a Dallas college team that is trying to upgrade its program and sell a few tickets at its home stadium.

And on the topic of non-conference series: If the NCAA had any interest in improving the overall sport of college football it would require all non-conference series to be home and away. It is ridiculous that the same powerful few get to schedule as many home games per season as they do.

I'm not sure what the alure is of playing in Cowboy Stadium, but it is costing the TCU fans an arm and a leg to buy tickets and pay for parking at Jerry World. I believe the tickets are running about $150 +/- $50 a seat and parking is $40 or $50. I hope they are happy w/playing in Jerry World.

PK wrote:I'm not sure what the alure is of playing in Cowboy Stadium, but it is costing the TCU fans an arm and a leg to buy tickets and pay for parking at Jerry World. I believe the tickets are running about $150 +/- $50 a seat and parking is $40 or $50. I hope they are happy w/playing in Jerry World.

You must be one of those people that complained that nobody could ever afford to go to a Cowboy game at the new stadium because personal seat licenses were $50,000 apiece. A little research would show that ticket prices go up to $150. Tickets start at $45. I'm sure there are many on this board who wish they only paid $150 per seat at Ford after Mustang Club donations, etc.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0C004 ... dma_id=261


There is obviously a market for these games, or they wouldn't be scheduled. There are more Tech, UT, and A & M grads in Dallas than SMU or TCU. Wouldn't it be great if SMU brought it's program up to the level that it justified a neutral site game at Cowboy Stadium against TCU?