I know the State Fair Used to have "Negro Day"(historical). I think the Cotton Bowl may well have been segregated back then. I mean this was the Soth in the 1940s.
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I just went to the ticket site to check this out. I put 9 as the quantity, then searched for "best available". It gave me 9 seats together in Section 224, which is right on the 50-yard line.
So I have to wonder about that two-thirds figure- why would there still be so many seats available right on the 50?
Uptownstang wrote:I just went to the ticket site to check this out. I put 9 as the quantity, then searched for "best available". It gave me 9 seats together in Section 224, which is right on the 50-yard line.
So I have to wonder about that two-thirds figure- why would there still be so many seats available right on the 50?
Does TCU have their allotted tickets to sell yet? A big chunk of sold tickets could be in their section.
Uptownstang wrote:I just went to the ticket site to check this out. I put 9 as the quantity, then searched for "best available". It gave me 9 seats together in Section 224, which is right on the 50-yard line.
So I have to wonder about that two-thirds figure- why would there still be so many seats available right on the 50?
Stallion wrote:I know the State Fair Used to have "Negro Day"(historical). I think the Cotton Bowl may well have been segregated back then. I mean this was the Soth in the 1940s.
The State Fair also had KKK Day - at which they inducted new members right there in the stadium. Photos are "interesting". However, it was only held for a couple of years. If you were black and didn't go on Negro Day, you were SOL (as far as getting to go to the Fair).
Uptownstang wrote:I just went to the ticket site to check this out. I put 9 as the quantity, then searched for "best available". It gave me 9 seats together in Section 224, which is right on the 50-yard line.
So I have to wonder about that two-thirds figure- why would there still be so many seats available right on the 50?
Are those the $25 or $45 variety? My guess is more $25 sold early.
Uptownstang wrote:I just went to the ticket site to check this out. I put 9 as the quantity, then searched for "best available". It gave me 9 seats together in Section 224, which is right on the 50-yard line.
So I have to wonder about that two-thirds figure- why would there still be so many seats available right on the 50?
Are those the $25 or $45 variety? My guess is more $25 sold early.
great seats are generally available on the visitor side; we will know we are "back" when that is no longer the case and SMU is selling about 4-5k more season tickets between the 40s on the visitor side
Uptownstang wrote:I just went to the ticket site to check this out. I put 9 as the quantity, then searched for "best available". It gave me 9 seats together in Section 224, which is right on the 50-yard line.
So I have to wonder about that two-thirds figure- why would there still be so many seats available right on the 50?
Are those the $25 or $45 variety? My guess is more $25 sold early.
great seats are generally available on the visitor side; we will know we are "back" when that is no longer the case and SMU is selling about 4-5k more season tickets between the 40s on the visitor side
we'll really be back when we stop referring to the east side which is primarily supposed to be home seating as the "visitor side'
This is for Mastengo who criticized my use of "black." Strictly speaking I said "employee" and not "people" and I suspect that was quite simply a matter of fact in 1949. Add "maid" to the job descriptions I listed and that was pretty well it for 1949 SMU. In the segregated Park Cities of 1949 I doubt that any people of color lived in the city limits unless they were employed and housed as live-in maids, yardmen, cooks, or chauffers. Only a few worked there. Two black men known to many people worked in Snider Plaza. One of them went by the nick name "Lightning" and he bagged groceries at the grocery store closest to Hillcrest (Safeway?). The other was the long time shoe shine man and valet at Claude Carpenter's barber shop just south and across from the Varsity. "Lightning" had a Cub Scout Pack and Pack 37, based at the on-campus Methodist church donated a lot of used uniforms and such to his Pack during a time when I was a member. A few years later I remember that there was a black janitor at HPJH. I am really sorry that at this remove I do not recall the names of any of those men.
I think that wages for maids who did not have live-in positions typically included "carfare" for the streetcar, or later for the bus. FYI, my family never had live-in help and only very rarely any day help.
Thanks to couch-em, cutter, and Stallion who made knowing comments about segregated Dallas.
Certainly I meant no disrespect for any individual or group. I lived in North Dallas between 1942 and 1961 and in University Park for most of that time. There was a "Negro Day" at the State Fair. Typically during the Fair there were several college football games in addition to OU - Texas. SMU had games during that time. So did the black colleges and I can well remember the radio advertisements that offered "seats in a special white section" during those games. You can probably find old newspaper ads that gave the same message.
In short, there were a number of aspects to segregated Dallas that were mean at best - and really very un-equal. Only the white DISD junior highs had football. Dal-Hi was the only DISD stadium for a long time and the black games were always at the off - times, generaly Wednesday I think. Also, I think I am right in saying that at one time black teachers who taught in Dallas schools were not eligible to be members of the credit union. I could go on and on with the things any fairly observant person might recall but I am not trying to write a lesson plan for Black History Mionth.
And SMU was selling out the Cotton Bowl in those those days when Doak Walker was the draw. Probably those folding chairs were used several times. I just happened to be at that one game.
No Quarter wrote:This is for Mastengo who criticized my use of "black." Strictly speaking I said "employee" and not "people" and I suspect that was quite simply a matter of fact in 1949. Add "maid" to the job descriptions I listed and that was pretty well it for 1949 SMU. In the segregated Park Cities of 1949 I doubt that any people of color lived in the city limits unless they were employed and housed as live-in maids, yardmen, cooks, or chauffers. Only a few worked there. Two black men known to many people worked in Snider Plaza. One of them went by the nick name "Lightning" and he bagged groceries at the grocery store closest to Hillcrest (Safeway?). The other was the long time shoe shine man and valet at Claude Carpenter's barber shop just south and across from the Varsity. "Lightning" had a Cub Scout Pack and Pack 37, based at the on-campus Methodist church donated a lot of used uniforms and such to his Pack during a time when I was a member. A few years later I remember that there was a black janitor at HPJH. I am really sorry that at this remove I do not recall the names of any of those men.
I think that wages for maids who did not have live-in positions typically included "carfare" for the streetcar, or later for the bus. FYI, my family never had live-in help and only very rarely any day help.
Thanks to couch-em, cutter, and Stallion who made knowing comments about segregated Dallas.
Certainly I meant no disrespect for any individual or group. I lived in North Dallas between 1942 and 1961 and in University Park for most of that time. There was a "Negro Day" at the State Fair. Typically during the Fair there were several college football games in addition to OU - Texas. SMU had games during that time. So did the black colleges and I can well remember the radio advertisements that offered "seats in a special white section" during those games. You can probably find old newspaper ads that gave the same message.
In short, there were a number of aspects to segregated Dallas that were mean at best - and really very un-equal. Only the white DISD junior highs had football. Dal-Hi was the only DISD stadium for a long time and the black games were always at the off - times, generaly Wednesday I think. Also, I think I am right in saying that at one time black teachers who taught in Dallas schools were not eligible to be members of the credit union. I could go on and on with the things any fairly observant person might recall but I am not trying to write a lesson plan for Black History Mionth.
And SMU was selling out the Cotton Bowl in those those days when Doak Walker was the draw. Probably those folding chairs were used several times. I just happened to be at that one game.
tough times, for all those who were on the unfortunate side of that line.
hopefully, maybe this part of the past will return (or, at least, approach it):
No Quarter wrote: And SMU was selling out the Cotton Bowl in those those days
leopold wrote:Sure, for us it is. If, on the small chance we go 3-0, we sneak into the top 25 we could be looking at the first nationally relevent game for our school the since you-know-what. For us to put, say, 35,000 in Ford is pretty good.
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if that happens, Gameday will be in front of Dallas Hall with the Boulevard behind them