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Stallion wrote:So its ludicrous? In fact, there has never been a nationally competitive Texas Football team that wasn't predominently built by Texas recruits. I invite anyone to attempt to prove that statement wrong. 100% of those programs disagree with you. Yes we definitely need Texas recruits-in fact its ludicrous to suggest otherwise. I think we presently have 1 offer out to currently uncommitted Texas Top 100 recruit. Seriously? I know Klemm is doing a good job in California. What about the other 8 Coaches?

I'm not saying it's ludicrous, I'm saying it's a strange point to get worried about.

First of all, though, name one school that's ever TRIED to get significant numbers from outside Texas. The fact that no one's ever gotten significant help outside Texas doesn't mean it can't be done (especially when no one's ever really tried). Furthermore, your assertion that we're only looking outside Texas is based on EARLY offers only and contradicts this program's trend of signing a majority TX class. I think it's a great strategy, after our 25 year legacy of losing, Texas kids and moreso DFW kids will be the hardest to convince that SMU is back.

how does the 17 of 27 of this year's recruits being from Texas compare to our student body as a whole?
Obviously we all want to be successful recruiting Texas, but it's nice to have a broader appeal and those La guys aren't far from hme

i understand why UT and TCU are stingy with their offers...they get accepted a high rate these days. I also understand why Rice doesn't offer many...they truly are the harvard or MIT of the south. Us? We should be casting a wide net with ranked players. Why would we wait til Junior Day to make offers? Offer early then push them to commit when they hit campus.

Garret wrote:Wouldn't SMU be waiting for their Junior Day to make a large batch of offers to Texas recruits? I figure that SMU is having a Junior Day during Spring Practice and the offers will occur then. All that seems to be happening now is that SMU is having their Spring Practice later than many other schools, so the Junior Day attached to Spring Practice is later.

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of offers to Texas recruits go out during SMU's Junior Day. Also, SMU's coaches do that 4- or 5-day in a row traveling camp around the state of Texas during the summer and seem to make a number of offers then.

Of course they're made up of mostly Texas players. SMU is made up of mostly Texas players, too. But that doesn't change the fact that if you find good players elsewhere and can get them, go get them. There are more D-I schools in Texas than there are in California. Maybe that at least partially explains our success out there (that and the fact that Coach Klemm is a recruiting stud ... and he did get Texas product Arrius Holleman). The idea that a team has to have a certain number of recruits from its own state is silly. Maybe if it's a state in which fans automatically buy tickets to see home-state kids play, but it's clear that's not the formula in Texas. Winning is what brings fans out.

I'd agree we need to step up Texas recruiting whether it's junior day or not. Klemm is making great traction in his area, what about the other coaches aside from Reinbold?

I think a better way to present this is to say...

To take this program to another level, which all of us know we are capable of, we need to hire a Texas Klemm.

Charleston Pony wrote:how does the 17 of 27 of this year's recruits being from Texas compare to our student body as a whole?
Obviously we all want to be successful recruiting Texas, but it's nice to have a broader appeal and those La guys aren't far from hme

I like the California recruiting. CA sends many kids to SMU to go to school. It's smart to recruit where our students are from imputing LA and OK. The real reason lies more in Klemms West Coast presence and the knowledge of Junes work out on the island.

Im sure we will see more offers following the JR day and camps. Despite the fact that I'd like to see more and earlier offers here in TX I think the coaches approach the recruits and keep on the ones who give good feedback about SMU.

SoCal_Pony wrote:I think a better way to present this is to say...

To take this program to another level, which all of us know we are capable of, we need to hire a Texas Klemm.

IF that's what Stallion's saying, I wholeheartedly agree. We've gotten some good players from Texas but certainly no one as highly rated as Davon Moreland if we're going to be at a Boise State/TCU level in a relatively short timeframe.

Good teams are comprised of good players.

Question: Have we signed good players?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Will we continue to sign good players?

Answer: Yes.

End of story. Thank you for playing.

I believe part of the problem is we don't have a recruiter for North Texas....McKnight was responsible for N Texas and wasn't very successful. I understand maybe the new Special Teams Coach would be responsible for N Texas ( hopefully the rumors of Ganz Jr are correct) ......maybe we can get Plano, Allen, Carrolton and other top notch programs on board with us?

In this case, I am in agreement to some extent with Stallion. But, doesn't it appear that we have two standards in play here with Texas and California? What I mean is we aggressively go after kids in California, even if they have never heard of us before and know little to nothing about the school. In Texas we seem to pass on kids that don't list us in the their top ten "schools of interest" or is that just false?

There maybe some truth to the old Bible parable "you can never be a prophet in your own home". We have considerable garbage that we have to overcome after twenty years in the 'wilderness' and until we are on TV more and win some big games the better Texas' kids simply won't listen to our pitch?

No question that Klemm is a special recruiter, but our stategy does appear different. When was the last time we stepped up our recruiting for a kid already committed to Texas (ala USC)? When I ask my friends they say our Texas' offers will come after we see the players at our junior day, I keep asking myself, "We've seen the California players, but haven't seen the Texas players?"

I don't have a problem with two different strategies fitting different markets, just looks like we do. On the otherhand, "our outstanding offers" aren't always accurate in count or by player (Il qb). Who really knows how many offers we have given in the state other than the coaches?

Two cents worth: We are still pretty much considered a football toxic waste dump in Texas, not so much in other areas of the US. So, it makes sense to me to go elsewhere to find quality athletes that don't have the negative view that so many have here. The PAC 10 doesn't throw out early offers like we do here so offering early out there gives these athletes the ability to say they have their first offer and maybe that gets us some long term traction with them.

I would love to be in the hunt for Texas studs but let's get some good athletes and build the program first. Then I bet we'll see the offers start rising here in our back yard.

Last point, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oregon, Boise State to name a few don't just recruit their backyard so there is a different roadmap to follow rather than just getting in line behind all the state schools and tcu..............

Just a question, I think we graduated 10 players or something close to that so don't we have fewer schollies this year to throw around?????

As far a the number of recruits this year, who knows? Last year a certain hc told me that he would only sign 15 players based upon graduation numbers. I looked like a fool repeating that on the board. I would guess we sign 25, who knows who leaves, graduates or joins a band?

We are going to have about 19-20 Seniors(unless some are thinned out this spring) so I bet we sign 25 again. Plus there is going to be a substantial group of 4th year Juniors who aren't starting and may not get that 5th year. I count at least 27-28 that COULD be playing their last year-hard to tell though with the kids with current legal issues, possible career ending injuries or stuck on the bench. Some of those slots may go to 2011 recruits. Probably sign 28. It will be easier to project when Spring and Fall rosters come out.