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Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:43 pm
by goldenstang
shadowman wrote:You guys are funny...we are stuck in a pretty dated offense..and we really dont have that great of players...except for Zach Line...what a waste...he coulda helped a good BCS team.
Glad its basketball season now....
The run n shoot is not dated. Pretty much every team in the NFL uses it to some extent and a ton of teams in the NCAA. They just don't call it the run n shoot, they call it whatever the hell they feel like. The term Run n Shoot might be dated but the principles the offense has been based on are not. You don't know what you are talking about.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:45 pm
by SMUer
Non-competitive. Just about the worst thing you can see from a team and a coach.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:47 pm
by leopold
shadowman wrote:You guys are funny...we are stuck in a pretty dated offense..and we really dont have that great of players...except for Zach Line...what a waste...he coulda helped a good BCS team.
Without JJ Line would have been playing FCS ball at Robert Morris.
You, and Zach, are welcome.
Offenses come and go in football. Option, Pro, West Coast, Power I, and I-Bone offenses are all as old or older than the RnS and found in other schools.
We're fine. JJ himself has said the breakout year was probably going to happen next year, and he said that well before this season started.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:47 pm
by RGV Pony
Non competitive and outhit. Two weeks in a row.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:50 pm
by NomAnor
Thats JJ`s style loose and big plays over the top not hard nosed smash mouth.Live by the sword die by the sword and all that.I think ALL of our recent succes over the last few years is because of him and his laid back style.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:57 pm
by RGV Pony
O line has said they pride themselves on imposing their will on the defense and punishing the player across from them. Not a mantra of finesse.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:01 pm
by sbsmith
shadowman wrote:You guys are funny...we are stuck in a pretty dated offense..and we really dont have that great of players...except for Zach Line...what a waste...he coulda helped a good BCS team.
Glad its basketball season now....
The offense isn't the problem, it's the personnel. The R&S is heavily dependent on the QB and we've started nothing but scrubs at the position thanks to June's awful recruiting and development.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:24 pm
by TCUBCSBOUND
leopold wrote:shadowman wrote:You guys are funny...we are stuck in a pretty dated offense..and we really dont have that great of players...except for Zach Line...what a waste...he coulda helped a good BCS team.
Without JJ Line would have been playing FCS ball at Robert Morris.
You, and Zach, are welcome.
Offenses come and go in football. Option, Pro, West Coast, Power I, and I-Bone offenses are all as old or older than the RnS and found in other schools.
We're fine. JJ himself has said the breakout year was probably going to happen next year, and he said that well before this season started.
He's said that the last 3 years. His motto is he's only 1 year away. He keeps shoving the history of the last 20 years in Orsinis face so no one questions him. He's a lot better than what's been in Dallas lately but nowhere near an elite coach.
SMU will keep being a nice 8-4/9-3 team under him and able to beat teams ranked 55-120. Not going to break the attendance barrier though.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:28 pm
by sbsmith
TCUBCSBOUND wrote:leopold wrote:shadowman wrote:You guys are funny...we are stuck in a pretty dated offense..and we really dont have that great of players...except for Zach Line...what a waste...he coulda helped a good BCS team.
Without JJ Line would have been playing FCS ball at Robert Morris.
You, and Zach, are welcome.
Offenses come and go in football. Option, Pro, West Coast, Power I, and I-Bone offenses are all as old or older than the RnS and found in other schools.
We're fine. JJ himself has said the breakout year was probably going to happen next year, and he said that well before this season started.
He's said that the last 3 years. His motto is he's only 1 year away. He keeps shoving the history of the last 20 years in Orsinis face so no one questions him. He's a lot better than what's been in Dallas lately but nowhere near an elite coach.
SMU will keep being a nice 8-4/9-3 team under him and able to beat teams ranked 55-120. Not going to break the attendance barrier though.
Wait a minute, who said he was an elite coach and when have we ever finished 8-4 or 9-3 under him?
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:28 pm
by ponyscott
Probably a good assessment about JJ...he isn't a good game day coach at all, but he will get SMU out of the dregs and into credibility status and maybe the next coach will take SMU to the next level.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:56 pm
by Warbow
shadowman wrote:Not some burnout that is happy to go the Hawaii bowl each year....
I hope you JJ lovers saw today how bad our talent was, bad recruiting, bad offense, we need to let JJ ride off in the sunset back to Hawaii.
Look, we are committed to football, we have a blank check..but to waste it on June Jones is a mistake....Get someone that has some fire.
The curtains have been pulled back...after all that money, we have marginal talent and a coach with no fire.
Wake up pony fans, time to move on. We have been exposed as the frauds we are.....
We spend all this money, lets do something with it.
/cheers
We'll take um only if you take our fat [deleted] coach from us. Maybe you can turn him into some type of Patterson.
Oh yea, you pay half his (JJ's) salary also.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:08 pm
by jpe747
June Jones is the reason we will have a winning season again this year. When did winning seasons become the norm (I mean after the Death Penalty)? A couple of years ago maybe? Wonder if there is a connection? But then I remember when the only reason to go to an SMU game was to hear the wonderful music from the Mustang band.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:33 pm
by Gotcha
jpe747 wrote:June Jones is the reason we will have a winning season again this year. When did winning seasons become the norm (I mean after the Death Penalty)? A couple of years ago maybe? Wonder if there is a connection? But then I remember when the only reason to go to an SMU game was to hear the wonderful music from the Mustang band.
True, Jones has brought winning and "expectations" to the program. He has even got the administration re-committed to football. However, when a program plateaus, as has SMU these last 3 seasons, maybe he has reached his Peter Principle and a new coach can get the team to break through.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:51 pm
by Nacho
somebody better tell tom brady to stop running the run and shoot or he won't have a career.
Re: Can We Please Get a Real Coach?
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:53 pm
by Big Hoss
Why do we continue to post on any thread that shadowman or Otter starts? They are both like broken records. In fact, they may actually be the same person.