PSU Board of Trustees Statement

[BRStang]

Did you mean great grandchildren?

[NomAnor]

If your a player how the hell can you use that shower and locker room now i just dont get it

[couch 'em]

So Joe Pa is coaching Saturday?

I love to bash Paterno like the next guy, but based on what's in the grand jury report I really can't say I have a problem with Paterno. Is what he did optimum? no. But I think it's a reasonable reaction that would not be necessarily indicative of a big cover up on Paterno's part.

How about letting a man who he knew raped a child hang around the football program for another decade? This guy was working out at the Penn State athletic facilities as of last week! He was AT PRACTICE WITH ANOTHER CHILD a couple of years ago.

Perhaps Paterno, or the ginger assistant who witnessed the rape, might have run up into the stands at practice and created a giant scene because they knew there was a child rapist sitting there with another child.

Or maybe any one of these people could have called the police 10 years ago and put a stop to this.

Based purely on the report, you could say that he didn't know the guy did it. He heard an accusation, one time, reported it to those above, and they from his perspective found no wrongdoing. Did he know more? Probably. But we don't know that yet. I'll withhold additional judgement until more comes out.

I just don't like getting in to villifying everyone until it is proven or at least clear. The media does not always have all details. Remember the Gary Condit/Chandra Levy deal? He had protestors calling for his lynching and his whole career was destroyed. Years later the real killer was found and convicted, but Condit's career and name are ruined.

What doesn't make sense however is why the grad student/assistant that witnessed it 1. stayed at PennSt. after seeing it, and 2. why he was not asked to leave after making accusations if they were considered untrue. Perhaps Sandusky argued that he was gay and with an adult?

[huskerpony]

I don't disagree about waiting for more facts to come out before completely villifying someone, but the police do have this guy on tape admitting he showered with boys back in 1998. That would be all I need to know to at least say you are banned from campus--not here is an office, a retirement package, and keys to the weight room and locker rooms. Hard to believe that isn't what caused his sudden "retirement" when he was supposed to be heir to the head coaching job.

When accusation #2 came out, that certainly would have been enough to ban a retired employee from campus, even if you believed the authorities had investigated it and found nothing.

I don't think Joe Pa is a bad guy. The good he has done probably far outweighs his failure here, and he may very well have believed he did everything he could--especially considering the authorities took no action after the first investigation when they had the guy on tape. So even though I do think there is likely a serious coverup, he may believe he did what he was supposed to and nothing happened. That still doesn't mean it isn't time for him to go. Maybe he doesn't deserve to be fired on the spot and can finish the season out, but just from a recruiting perspective they have to completely clean house and bring in all new people.

[EastStang]

I'm still not sure why the graduate assistant did not (a) run in and stop the rape or (b) call 911 at the time. Joe Pa reported it to his superiors including the man who ran the Campus Police, and he apparently told Sandusky that he was not allowed to bring young boys into the locker room. Could he have done more? Probably. I still think that the 28 year old graduate assistant has a lot more explaining to do. Saw a rape, called his dad, goes to the coach the next morning and tells him. No stopping the rape, no 911 call.

[Junior]

Wonder how long it will be before the we hear that Sandusky has been found dead in his home or a hotel room somewhere...

[ericdickerson4life]

This is really all troubling and disturbing. But to quote others "I think Couch'em is right". We have no idea what Joe Pa knows/knew. It all comes down to what the GA told Joe Pa. He could have said any number of things. My guess is he said something along the lines of seeing Sandusky with a kid in the showers an thought maybe something inappropriate was going on. Joe Pa then passed that up the ladder.

If Joe Pa was told that Sandusky was raping the child then I would assume he would be charged with the other two university officials for failure to report and protect a child. There is a part of me that really hopes he was never told that Sandusky was raping a child and it was presented to him much like the case in 1998. If he knew he needs to go to jail, plain and simple. But let's back off from the public judgement and crucifiction for a moment and let the courts to their thing. Remember the Duke Lacrosse story?

The big question is what Couch'em pointed out. If the GA actually witnessed the raping of a child why didn't he physically stop it? Why didn't he call the cops himself? Why wouldn't he jump up and down and scream for help? Why would he stick around the PSU program with Sandusky popping in all the time? This is what bothers me. He was a 20 something year old adult who has been reported to have witnessed a child being raped and did nothing! He was there and could have stopped it. He himself is an adult, he didn't need to run to his daddy or head football coach. Would he have done the same thing is the child was being murdered?

I needed to type some of this stuff out because I'm just so physically sick over this. I have coached myself as well as played and understand the importance of team, family, unity, loyalty. But as a coach, the number one job is to teach children how to become men. I know we get caught up in wins/losses and TV dollars but the bottom line is teaching and molding the players is the number one priority. And to have such a well respected coach be accused of something as heinous as Sandusky has been, makes me ill. My wife also works in special ed in the school system. I hear stories like this all the time with children that have been abused in their homes by relatives or those close to them. It's a travesty. It ruins children for life. Steals their innocence and their souls. I pray for patience, justice and for humanity. Matt Millen was right on the money, this is not a football thing, this is all about humanity.

Thanks for a board where I can type my ramblings and get somethings off my chest.

[RSFan]

Couch 'em said... "Remember the Gary Condit/Chandra Levy deal? He had protestors calling for his lynching and his whole career was destroyed. Years later the real killer was found and convicted, but Condit's career and name are ruined".

Sorry Coach 'em... Please dig a little deeper in the Chandra Levy Cover up before defending Condit a known Washington Sex Freak.. but that was not what got her killed. She had a Masters in Criminology and was working in the Federal Prison System. She had a Top Secret clearance and a curiosity that led her to open the Timothy McVeigh - Murrah Bombing files. She talked to Condit with what she found very disturbing, Condit talked to George W Bush and [deleted] Cheny in the Whitehouse the day before her disappearance. The poor chump that they strung up, ten years later, could not speak english and was a hungry low level petty thief.

I would compare the situation to when Prime Minister Bhutto, as did Madalyn Albright allude to, went on international television in 2002 and reported that Osama Bin Laden had been killed and named the killer (there was a 25 million dollar reward) and within two weeks she had been murdered, which you can track back to elements within our government. Washington is a very dangerous place if you talk about what goes on or is in the file cabinet. Condit is lucky to still be alive. Oh, and then Obama tries to rejuvinate his reputation with the phony story about seal team six finding him watching TV and within two months the entire seal team six dies on a junky old national guard helicopter, STFU.

Main stream media and washington press releases are mostly covers and lies... Do some Google and carefully sift and get alternative information that is independently and personally funded. There are some real Patriots out there reporting truth. Mainstream Media is Dead, and has lost all credibility.

[RSFan]

Wonder how long it will be before the we hear that Sandusky has been found dead in his home or a hotel room somewhere...

Exactly, if authorities such as the Police and Schultz who oversees the Campus Police have both been involved in investigations and both dropped the cases then we must look at the focus on the Perp. It appears to me he had and still has a lot of leverage, information of others which protected him and has given him access to Penn, the Mile and his neighborhood grade school. Something stinks in the state of Denmark and it smells like an abundance of fresh cheese.

[smupony94]

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[smuuth]

Just goes to show you how people/fans will look the other way if you win or help the program win no matter the offense. Coaches look the other way when players loaf, don't practice or don't attend class but if you can help them win we will "add a few more strikes" for that kid. FSU problems ok and Bowden kept job when winning but creep down to .500 and it is time to retire! I wonder what took so long for this to come to light....8-10 years! Pellinis tirades ok if NE wins.

[huskerpony]

Wonder how long it will be before the we hear that Sandusky has been found dead in his home or a hotel room somewhere...

isn't_he_in_jail_right_now?

Out_on_bond.

[huskerpony]

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[smupony94]

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[gostangs]

RS - is there a conspiracy theory you don't believe - or are they all true?