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Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:41 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
Ugh I hate these liberal professors, most students would prefer having a great football team rather than having more classrooms (especially teaching a useless topic like anthropolgy). This article was pretty negative towards SMU and I dont know if the word "incompetence" was appropriate but rather use irrelevance. Also like you guys pointed out, it was pretty funny that the field is only use 6 time in a year.... It really does suck that we have professors like this here, who for the most part has little to no value. I remember seeing a list of economic professors and over 75% of them have tenure, so I can only imagine that these two geniuses have tenure.

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:48 pm
by redpony
It's a shame that these profs don't do as much outside of the university as JJ and our athletes do. When they do then perhaps they will have a right to [deleted] a little.

GO PONIES!!!

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:50 pm
by redpony
Perhaps somebody should tell RGT that when he gets rid of all the pompous assed profs and brings in real intellectuals he might see his donations for academia increase substantially.

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Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:58 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
redpony wrote:Perhaps somebody should tell RGT that when he gets rid of all the pompous assed profs and brings in real intellectuals he might see his donations for academia increase substantially.

GO PONIES!!!


Unfortunately, unless professors committ Penn State acts, other criminal activities, etc, they dont have to leave because of tenure. Once they die off, retire, or have a desire to move to another school, then we need to make sure to recruit people like you said you dont have to be ultra pro sports, but understand the greater economic benefits. Alot of these teacher dont understand that rebuilding a program is a huge start up costs, and hopefully (and has to some extent) brought in some cash flows. As we have seen in matter of three years, we are going to much more lucrative conference, and hopefully will be a self sustaining program financially and maybe income producing for the school

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:01 pm
by redpony
11- I don't disagree with your comments. However, I have to believe that 'conditions' can be made so that an undesirable tenured prof would prefer to move on.

GO PONIES!!!

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:04 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
redpony wrote:11- I don't disagree with your comments. However, I have to believe that 'conditions' can be made so that an undesirable tenured prof would prefer to move on.

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If you ever find out what it is let me know, Ive been curious on different strategies Universities have to get rid of professors. All I heard was that you can move them to like the worst room, with worst temperature, give them the worst computer, etc.

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:08 pm
by redpony
I think one of the best incentives is to tell RGT you have 500k you would like to donate to a particlular school but will not do so because of prof x, y and z. When they are no longer at SMU please contact me and we can discuss my contribution.

GO PONIES!!!

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:12 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
redpony wrote:I think one of the best incentives is to tell RGT you have 500k you would like to donate to a particlular school but will not do so because of prof x, y and z. When they are no longer at SMU please contact me and we can discuss my contribution.

GO PONIES!!!


But again because of their contract, the individual school cant fire them or anything, right? I mean I get the incentive since schools love donations. Its also hard, because for the most part the business school has very few liberals and they tend to be pretty quiet. But there are still a few in each school that has this anti-everything that isnt academics.

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:23 pm
by redpony
11- my real point was that somebody like RGT has ways of making people uncomfortable and want to leave. I am sure RGT has had these issues previously and was able to deal with them effectively. People just need to make him aware there is a problem (IMO).

GO PONIES!!!

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:47 pm
by MustangSTATS
really more of a reason to educate people, us vs them just makes things harder and needlessly adversarial. Clearly some profs are lacking in understanding how a university operates beyond their given department.

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:54 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
I know but sometimes putting them in their place (because of their ego or group think among other faculty) is really the only measure. They tend to not have any pride in our football program, and they use the DP as justification to why we shouldnt have one. I mean Im all for trying to educate them; I just feel its important to let them know the employer-employee relation.

Re: Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:35 pm
by NavyCrimson
"...I just feel its important to let them know the employer-employee relation."

Well said 'Alumni11! This has been long forgotten on college campuses & in gov't.

Bloomberg: SMU Football's Second Coming

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:30 pm
by 2ndandlong
Vote for Adam Still today.