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The very thing that these adult criminals sought to protect should be torn down to the foundation. The players should be allowed to transfer without losing any eligibilty, immediately. These people in Happy Valley still don't get it. The Paterno family doesn't get it, the administration doesn't get it, the Board of Governors doesn't get and certainly the fans and students don't get it! Children were abused and the crimes were swept under the rug. These are felonies! If JoePa had this much control what other omissions and violations were swept under? How about $1,000 for kid whose grandma was sick? How about $500 for a player that wanted to go home for Christmas? How about a big-time recruit that needed a new car?
This is the worst case of lack of institutional control I have ever heard of.
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I'm sympathetic to the Paterno family, assuming they didn't honestly know anything about it - if someone came and told me my father or grandfather had done these things, I'd be up in arms defending them, too.

Rick Reilly had a good article on it: http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8162 ... rue-legacy

Whole damn thing is a crying shame.
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I'm not usually a fan of Rick Reilly, but that was very well written. And I for one completely agree with this:
I hope Penn State loses civil suits until the walls of the accounting office cave in. I hope that Spanier, Schultz and Curley go to prison for perjury. I hope the NCAA gives Penn State the death penalty it most richly deserves. The worst scandal in college football history deserves the worst penalty the NCAA can give. They gave it to SMU for winning without regard for morals. They should give it to Penn State for the same thing. The only difference is, at Penn State they didn't pay for it with Corvettes. They paid for it with lives.
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"Winning without regard for morals.They should give it to Penn State for the same thing"

Bite me Reilly.
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Samurai Stang wrote:
Topper wrote: Penn State has done the same thing as so many Division 1 programs: They have allowed the football program to operate outside normal parameters of control.


I am not aware of another football program that has tolerated child rape.


Neither am I. Never insinuated such a thing, but there are plenty of coaches and ADs who for all purposes operate independently of the college president and are given very little oversight. The big state university a few blocks from my house in Austin comes to mind.
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Topper wrote:
Samurai Stang wrote:
Topper wrote: Penn State has done the same thing as so many Division 1 programs: They have allowed the football program to operate outside normal parameters of control.


I am not aware of another football program that has tolerated child rape.


Neither am I. Never insinuated such a thing, but there are plenty of coaches and ADs who for all purposes operate independently of the college president and are given very little oversight. The big state university a few blocks from my house in Austin comes to mind.


When you reduce what happened at Penn State in the way that you have, so as to label it a single instance of a widespread problem, you drastically and unfairly take away from the uniqueness of what Penn State has done.

The usual infractions of NCAA rules should not be equated with a crime that is so egregious that even prison inmates recognize that it goes beyond the pale.
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