McMurphy: Notre Dame to ACC

[Mustangs_Maroons]

Personally, I really don't understand this move from ND. For the non-football sports (basketball, hockey, soccer, etc), they're much better served staying in the BE than joining the ACC.

[alamocitystang]

Personally, I really don't understand this move from ND. For the non-football sports (basketball, hockey, soccer, etc), they're much better served staying in the BE than joining the ACC.

agreed on hockey and soccer. ACC is probably just as good for bball. And this move is about football...the worst part for me is just the message it sends about our new conference.

[alamocitystang]

Everybody also needs to brace themselves for when the basketball schools all leave.

Agreed. I was always leery of SMU joining the Big East, about football and the eastern basketball schools leaving. Coast to Coast conferences IMO do not work.

I'm not sure this move makes your point. The regions of our programs don't make any difference. If USC was joining rather than SDSU would a coast to coast conference work? What if Pitt and Syracuse stayed? It's just a dumb argument and a bit off topic. It's like saying the Big 12 really screwed up picking up West Virginia...regional conferences would be fun. But the jury is out and people watch when big programs play big programs. College football will never be the same. 2 years from now players will be paid and I'll officially no longer watch the game as everything about it that used to be great will be officially gone...

[alamocitystang]

Better be courting BYU or the fat lady will be singing!....

[CalallenStang]

ACC also increased exit fees to $50 million, meaning none of their schools are viable options for other conferences to expand with coming up. That is big because the schools Texas wanted to expand B12 with were ND as well as FSU/Clemson. OU wanted Louisville but Texas rejected that last year.

Texas could begin looking around again, but that would mean probably giving up LHN. I don't see them agreeing to take L'ville, especially after DeLoss' recent comments that he doesn't remember what the last time the B12 expansion committee met, but it is certainly not completely out of the realm of possibility.

Ramifications for Big East:
1) we lost a BB program
2) we now have an all-sports spot to entice BYU with
3) Perhaps Lville and BYU are revisited by B12
4) Alternatively, Texas may start looking around, and if they leave, BE may be in a position to scoop up some of the leftovers.

Ramifications for all Texas schools:
1) each conference's expansion with list just got all ACC teams wiped off. Texas to B10 instead of MD? TCU to SEC instead of VT? Could SMU somehow be involved if other conferences begin to try to get Texas market share?
2) Texas didn't get what they want, so they might turn some cheating in to the NCAA

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

TULSA TO THE BIG EAST!!!!

[PonyPride]

Statement from BIG EAST Commissioner Mike Aresco

"The University of the Notre Dame has informed us that it is joining the Atlantic Coast Conference in all sports other than football. Notre Dame has been a valued member of the BIG EAST Conference and we wish them success in the future. However, Notre Dame’s departure does not change our plans. We have prestigious institutions that are excited to be a part of the BIG EAST. We remain committed to making the BIG EAST stronger than it has ever been."

[EastStang]

ND helps the ACC not football contract and hurts the BE non-football contract by leaving. So, yes, this hurt us. ND is a ratings machine even if they have a bad year in hoops. That said, the BE is still a power hoops conference although losing WVU, Syracuse and Pitt hurt its brand. Georgetown, Villanova, Louisville, Marquette, UConn, all hold national championships in hoops. Providence, St. Johns and Seton Hall all have had Final Four appearances (funny ND does not). DePaul and Temple may have had one, but I can't remember. They have a foothold in DC, Philly, NYC, NE, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cincy, Tampa all major TV markets. Now they are making in-roads in Dallas, Houston, Orlando for all sports. Now, folks in Dallas might be interested to see what happens in a game between GT and Nova or Marquette and LV. As far as this wounding UT and their LHN network, to some degree it has. Now the remaining teams of the Big XII are at their mercy. If the LHN looks like it might not be profitable, UT can start whining again and its enablers will give it whatever it wants to stay in bed with the Whorns.

[Deep Purple]

Texas could begin looking around again, but that would mean probably giving up LHN.
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4) Alternatively, Texas may start looking around, and if they leave, BE may be in a position to scoop up some of the leftovers.
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Ramifications for all Texas schools:
1) each conference's expansion with list just got all ACC teams wiped off. Texas to B10 instead of MD? TCU to SEC instead of VT?

You're overlooking a few factors:

• The Big 12 schools have signed a 13-year grant of media rights to the conference. Any school that leaves during that period does not take its media rights with it. They stay with the conference. Bottom line is, no school is leaving the Big 12, because without media rights, no other conference is taking a Big 12 team.
  
  
• ND remaining indy in football means the ACC is still a basketball-first league, which isn't likely to cement the loyalty of football-first schools like Florida State. It may not be the Big 12 that lures the first football school away. May come from the SEC. If it does, Big 12 is the most likely secondary geneficiary from the fallout.

[gostangs]

so those that question the new BE for us think that we should have passed, and let UH and UCF join from CUSA, as well as watch Boise and SDSU join, meanwhile stay in a depleted CUSA which was week to begin with? That would have been insanity, and basically a decision to drop down out of D-1 football.

We made the obviously correct decision and now need to fight to make the BE work. We will add to the value of basketball VERY soon - and need a jolt to get the football in a value add position as well.

[RednBlue11]

Everybody also needs to brace themselves for when the basketball schools all leave.

Clearly that has already begun

Sent from my Android, better than your iPhone that doesn't have real 4G.

IHSV

[MustangStealth]

We made the obviously correct decision and now need to fight to make the BE work.

Yes, we made the right decision, but everyone needs to realize that it is only a marginal step up, and not the Holy Grail of college athletics.

[Kynd Tulsa Phan]

The New even weakened Big East is a 1000 times better than CUSA in its new commuter college FBS fail formation.

I would assume UCONN and Lville are out the door but that still doesnt make the above statement any less true.

Add Tulsa and Fresno for FB only. Pretty please.

[Juneslai]

The timing is terrible. Notre Dame was the glue holding together much of the basketball power in the Big East. The big danger now is that the bball only schools just start a bball only conference and leave us stuck with the remaining schools.

The Big 12 GOR means they are tied together for 13 years....no other conference will take a school if they have to leave behind its TV rights. The Big12 will stand pat for now as they can't poach the ACC at this point as the exit fee is now 50 million! The SEC may try and pick up some ACC teams to get to 16, which could then lead to the Big 12 looking to add a few more (if 4-5 leave the ACC the out clause is over).....but that is doubtful any time soon.

We must win win win win win and consistently.

[Oldmins]

Personally, I really don't understand this move from ND. For the non-football sports (basketball, hockey, soccer, etc), they're much better served staying in the BE than joining the ACC.

Wetzel says great move by Notre Dame. Why? Here's a quote from this genius:

Notre Dame was not enamored with playing lesser-known brands such as Houston, SMU, Central Florida and others in the new revamped and expanded Big East basketball league.

Now we know.