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Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:46 pm
by soccermom
If that were to happen, he better not let Dooley wear his orange pants!!!!

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:18 pm
by ponyscott
Hart needs to FIRE. JJ Right now....no hesitation

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Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:33 pm
by Treadway21
Stallion wrote:Gilbert missed on a lot of throws but some of these receivers look like they don't want to get their Jerseys dirty especially the outside receivers. Am I the only one that don't see our receivers fighting for the ball?
Our receivers are definitely part of the problem. The only one who looks the part is Deiter. DJ does not look like he did last year.

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:43 am
by whitwiki
I don't know what's going onnnnn.

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:54 am
by ponyte
There is a lot more to this than the receivers, GG and the O line. I think all three components are struggling to understand what they are to do. O linemen are timid or hesitating on run blocks and the results are Line getting hammered at the line. Zach needs to get to the second level before getting hit to be effective (like all backs). The receivers don't know their routes. One play we flood the left outside. our inside receiver starts to head to the middle on an in route. Nice intermediate route and the middle is wide, and I mean wide open. And all of a sudden he changes routes to an out. now we have 3 receivers in one zone with 3 defenders and the wide open gap (the middle) has nothing. Now we are asking GG to make an incredible accurate pass in heavy coverage.

Our receivers ran one heck of a pick play down near the goal line. The problem was they picked each other and not the defenders.

There were other instances where receivers were making unsure or timid cuts. All this tells me that our receivers are not sure of their routes.

One would think that this off week JJ makes a decision. Simplify the O or work the kids as hard as possible so they improve and learn what they are to do in the current level of the O.

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:37 am
by Stallion
There were at least 3-4 plays that could have gone to the house if SMU's QB and receivers were on the same page. Its a combination. SMU left a lot of passing yards on the field

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:41 am
by RGV Pony
Stallion wrote:There were at least 3-4 plays that could have gone to the house if SMU's QB and receivers were on the same page. Its a combination. SMU left a lot of passing yards on the field
As has been the case every game for the last 4 full season + 3 games

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:52 am
by PK
ponyte wrote:There is a lot more to this than the receivers, GG and the O line. I think all three components are struggling to understand what they are to do. O linemen are timid or hesitating on run blocks and the results are Line getting hammered at the line. Zach needs to get to the second level before getting hit to be effective (like all backs). The receivers don't know their routes. One play we flood the left outside. our inside receiver starts to head to the middle on an in route. Nice intermediate route and the middle is wide, and I mean wide open. And all of a sudden he changes routes to an out. now we have 3 receivers in one zone with 3 defenders and the wide open gap (the middle) has nothing. Now we are asking GG to make an incredible accurate pass in heavy coverage.

Our receivers ran one heck of a pick play down near the goal line. The problem was they picked each other and not the defenders.

There were other instances where receivers were making unsure or timid cuts. All this tells me that our receivers are not sure of their routes.

One would think that this off week JJ makes a decision. Simplify the O or work the kids as hard as possible so they improve and learn what they are to do in the current level of the O.
If I understand correctly the whole JJ R&S system, there are no routes for the receivers. It's sort of like sandlot football. Based upon what the defense does after the snap, the receivers and the QB are suppose to think the same way on the response to the defense's actions. When they don't (which appears at this time to be quite often) the receiver goes one way and the pass a different way. IMHO it would be much better if they did run predetermined pass routes where the QB would know at the snap where his receivers are going to be.

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:18 pm
by 03Mustang
As I watched Gilbert yesterday I saw no real difference between him, McDermott, and Padron back in the pocket. All 3 would take forever to make the reads and constantly overlook wide open receivers or make over/underthrows. Only real difference is that Gilbert has a substantially better arm and is clearly more accurate on the deep ball (with the issue being that we no longer have Phil Bennett-recruited players like Emmanuel Sanders, Aldrick Robinson, and Cole Beasley back there to actually go and get the ball).

BLM was just terrible and would have thrown 8 picks yesterday, but I don't think it would have mattered at this point if KP had stayed....we'd be in the same place at worst.

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:23 pm
by GiddyUp
RGV Pony wrote:
Stallion wrote:There were at least 3-4 plays that could have gone to the house if SMU's QB and receivers were on the same page. Its a combination. SMU left a lot of passing yards on the field
As has been the case every game for the last 4 full season + 3 games
Not sure Stallion has attended any game film lunches. (not knocking that) but we see it on film week after week after week with guys "wide [deleted] open"

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:28 pm
by 03Mustang
Since you brought it up, I sincerely hope that less than 5 people show up to Ozona's this week, and that all of them ask Jones the same question: "why can't we hang within 3 TDs of a Big 12 or SEC team in your 5th year? Why should we expect it to ever get any better with you in charge?"

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:41 pm
by FroggieFever
03Mustang wrote:Since you brought it up, I sincerely hope that less than 5 people show up to Ozona's this week, and that all of them ask Jones the same question: "why can't we hang within 3 TDs of a Big 12 or SEC team in your 5th year? Why should we expect it to ever get any better with you in charge?"
+1

Re: Unbelievable

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:41 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
GiddyUp wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:
Stallion wrote:There were at least 3-4 plays that could have gone to the house if SMU's QB and receivers were on the same page. Its a combination. SMU left a lot of passing yards on the field
As has been the case every game for the last 4 full season + 3 games
Not sure Stallion has attended any game film lunches. (not knocking that) but we see it on film week after week after week with guys "wide [deleted] open"
I remember watching the game and our receivers were sluggish and never tried to get open. I would love to see more than 10% of our plays where they were wide open. GG has one thing he doesn't throw to covered WR hence why he only turns over maybe one or two times and they usually happen at disparate moments.