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Samurai Stang wrote:

SMU 86 wrote:

Treadway21 wrote:Yes make OOC schedule easier with teams no one in Dallas wants to watch. Great idea. The good news is by playing TCU, Baylor, and A and M is that we really know how far away we are from being a top 25 team. We had a reality check and it is not pretty.

We have to think wins more than attendance. JJ did say on TXA 21 that the job of the AD is to get the team to 4-0 in OOC.

Yes! And similarly, the regular season schedule is too difficult. Competing against CUSA teams is too much to ask of any coach. For maximum results, SMU should drop directly to Division III.

At last, SMU has a coach who is open about wanting to win with minimal effort on his part. As loyal supporters, it would be wrong to expect anything more.

+1. Yes isn't it the coach's job to get us to 4-0. My god is JJ really that lazy. Wow.

Samurai Stang wrote:

SMU 86 wrote:

Treadway21 wrote:Yes make OOC schedule easier with teams no one in Dallas wants to watch. Great idea. The good news is by playing TCU, Baylor, and A and M is that we really know how far away we are from being a top 25 team. We had a reality check and it is not pretty.

We have to think wins more than attendance. JJ did say on TXA 21 that the job of the AD is to get the team to 4-0 in OOC.

Yes! And similarly, the regular season schedule is too difficult. Competing against CUSA teams is too much to ask of any coach. For maximum results, SMU should drop directly to Division III.

At last, SMU has a coach who is open about wanting to win with minimal effort on his part. As loyal supporters, it would be wrong to expect anything more.

I understand your frustration Samuari Stang but let's face it we need the schedule to be for manufactured wins so we can have the best chance to get to 6-6 or 7-5. We are not recruiting and coaching well enough to play an OOC like we played this year. We are not that type of team. We just need to embrace who we currently are and figure out a way to make the team and coaches look good and get to bowl game. The sooner everyone accepts that and embraces it the better off we will be.

SMU 86 wrote:

Samurai Stang wrote:

SMU 86 wrote:
We have to think wins more than attendance. JJ did say on TXA 21 that the job of the AD is to get the team to 4-0 in OOC.

Yes! And similarly, the regular season schedule is too difficult. Competing against CUSA teams is too much to ask of any coach. For maximum results, SMU should drop directly to Division III.

At last, SMU has a coach who is open about wanting to win with minimal effort on his part. As loyal supporters, it would be wrong to expect anything more.

I understand your frustration Samuari Stang but let's face it we need the schedule to be for manufactured wins so we can have the best chance to get to 6-6 or 7-5. We are not recruiting and coaching well enough to play an OOC like we played this year. We are not that type of team. We just need to embrace who we currently are and figure out a way to make the team and coaches look good and get to bowl game. The sooner everyone accepts that and embraces it the better off we will be.

sorry my friend. No go. We pay the coaches a lot of money to do their job, their job is to find the players and put them in position to win. They are currently failing to do their jobs. I find your acceptance of failure perplexing. You play the game to win.

RGV Pony wrote:Yeah, just think of that poor coach at ULM and the hell he has been through this year with that murderers row schedule.

And close to beating them all.

Come on Treadway21. Can't we play to win the game against lesser opponents too?

Yes, but our lesser opponents are in the CUSA, so a OOC with SWC teams gets both attendance and interest. so I agree with you about dropping a tough OOC game next year.

But JJ can't have it both ways by complaining about attendance while also complaining about the OOC. The teams that bring folks to games (our fans) is ex SWC teams.

Additionally, losses are acceptable to a certain extent, but blow outs are not.

I hope that explains my position.

Treadway21 wrote:Yes, but our lesser opponents are in the CUSA, so a OOC with SWC teams gets both attendance and interest. so I agree with you about dropping a tough OOC game next year.

But JJ can't have it both ways by complaining about attendance while also complaining about the OOC. The teams that bring folks to games (our fans) is ex SWC teams.

Additionally, losses are acceptable to a certain extent, but blow outs are not.

I hope that explains my position.

It does and you have a valid position. I am just in the win by any (legal) means necessary camp LOL. CUSA championship this year and 6 or 7 win seasons for here on out.

I also understand your position, but we have had a taste of success and there should be no reason why we cannot do better.

I wonder if the fans for UTEP have degraded themselves by [deleted] about the OOC schedule... I say good for them. They got some attention by playing tough teams close or closer than people would have thought whereas we are whining about teams who we use to play on regular basis and also teams we should be competitive with a coach making 2.2 mil for 5 years.. I mean seriously people? Get mad at the coach, the players but don't humiliate us by getting made at 3 out of 4 dates...

Let's examine June's non-conference record since he came here:
2-8 vs non-BCS opponents
2-7 vs BCS conference opponents
4-0 vs FCS

He has only 4 non-conference wins against FBS opponents. 2 of those came in bowl games at the end of the season. The fact is that it isn't the opponents that are the problem, it's that we are never ready at the beginning of the season, regardless of who we play. Before this season everyone complained about playing Navy, a middle of the road independent. If we schedule UNT and lose to them, will we say that the opponent was too tough?

It's the coaching staff's responsibility to recruit quality players and get us ready during the offseason to face whoever is on the schedule. Our current staff is not accomplishing either of those goals.

Well, TCU just announced a home and home vs Ohio St

MustangStealth wrote:Let's examine June's non-conference record since he came here:
2-8 vs non-BCS opponents
2-7 vs BCS conference opponents
4-0 vs FCS

He has only 4 non-conference wins against FBS opponents. 2 of those came in bowl games at the end of the season. The fact is that it isn't the opponents that are the problem, it's that we are never ready at the beginning of the season, regardless of who we play. Before this season everyone complained about playing Navy, a middle of the road independent. If we schedule UNT and lose to them, will we say that the opponent was too tough?

It's the coaching staff's responsibility to recruit quality players and get us ready during the offseason to face whoever is on the schedule. Our current staff is not accomplishing either of those goals.

Posted elsewhere, but of the 54 wins PB Cavan and Rossley had, only 1 was vs FCS

This is a joke, right? Shutup and win your damn football games. Couldnt score a single touchdown on Baylor's ones. Too hard? Recruit better. Adapt your system. Hire the right assistants. Actually recruit and develop your own QB sometime this decade.

Don't remember June whining about stiff competition at Hawaii, in fact it was closer to the opposite.


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Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:This is a joke, right? Shutup and win your damn football games. Couldnt score a single touchdown on Baylor's ones. Too hard? Recruit better. Adapt your system. Hire the right assistants. Actually recruit and develop your own QB sometime this decade.

I think the point is since the coach is probably going to do things the way he always has then let's adapt a schedule that is more likely to get him wins while he is here.