Consequences of no long term plan...

[SMUer]

This is the same organization who thinks fraternity members playing horse is appropriate half-time entertainment. Methinks their 10-year plan would look ridiculous.

[CalallenStang]

This is the same organization who thinks fraternity members playing horse is appropriate half-time entertainment. Methinks their 10-year plan would look ridiculous.

Precisely. Note to athletic dept: Having no halftime entertainment would be better than having some of the stuff you put out there.

Let the band play, have the Pom squad dance at halftime instead of timeouts, etc. that would be better for hoops halftimes

[ponyte]

Um, maybe the fact we suddenly fired our AD has something to do with delays in planning.

[Billy Joe]

Nice post Mexstang. We all agree that recruiting has to get better and most of us agree June needs to get away from his asst. buddies and hire asst. coaches with real Texas ties that have shown they can agressively recruit and will get their hands a little dirty. June's attitude that he will not beg a kid to play football here has to stop. We need to kiss a little arse if that is what it takes to get the top players interested in coming here. Orsini got fired for pushing back on an adminstration that will not fully commit to putting a top 25-type football team on the field. The new AD was brought in as Turner's yes man. Our new AD starts the day shining Turner's shoes, kissing his arse and sucking on his nob.....those are the facts folks. Indoor practice facility should have been built years ago....top 25 teams have them. Athletic friendly majors and more tudors should have been implemented years ago....top 25 teams have them. Kiss my arse athletic program, Turner and BOD for lying to me about your commitment.

[Stallion]

just about every team in Texas has "lost 17 players to academics in the last 4 years". You guys just don't pay attention to any school but SMU. I do. The new NCAA academic progress/performance standards have real consequences that in fact wash a lot of kids out of all schools these days. Now you can ignore what I'm saying and pretend that its 1990 but you're wrong. I think TCU is way over that pace this year-off the top of my head:

Ed Wesley
Carter Wall
Derrick Gildon
Dwight Smith
James Dunbar

[dcpony]

The athletic dept's operations are bush league. Besides the blvd, the game presentation, outreach, marketing , it's all pretty mickey mouse. Then there's the vision and execution problem. TCU had a vision and they executed it. Plain and simple. SMU alums are throwing gobs of money at over the hill guys in hopes SMU will catch up. But I don't think it's sustainable if you're not catching up .

[redpony]

dc- couldn't agree more. But what evidence do we have that anybody in the admin cares to do something better than 'total bush league'.

[PoconoPony]

I think when Jones was hired he talked more about a 5 year plan. The past two years I do not recall hearing him reference his plan anymore. Even if it changes, he is the leader of the football program and should be creating a vision that players, administration and alumni can follow.

Did JJ talk in terms of a five year plan???? My recollection is that we hopeful fans established a 5 year plan in our thinking as that was standard football legend as to how long it would take to recruit and turn a program around. I never heard or read about JJ using the 5 year planning in his thinking. If I am wrong so be it, but I do not recall JJ ever outlining any plan or time goals. Some one correct me please.

[Stallion]

3 years ago we were 1 1/2 recruiting classes away from BCS contention-now we are 2 1/2 recruiting classes and 4 new assistant coaches away. Its arithmetic

[Charleston Pony]

3 years ago we were 1 1/2 recruiting classes away from BCS contention-now we are 2 1/2 recruiting classes and 4 new assistant coaches away. Its arithmetic

of course what he meant is that we are 37 high caliber players away from competing for a BCS game...seems about right to me

[LakeHighlandsPony]

Hart is going to get the empty chair treatment like Barry Saetoro unless he starts stepping up and being heard.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

Hart is going to get the empty chair treatment like Barry Saetoro unless he starts stepping up and being heard.

I fear we may have just hired a Turner lapdog.

I hope I am wrong, but from the interviews I've seen the guy just seems like a caretaker type.

"Oh I've got to tie up all my loose ends in Chattanooga &
take a planned vacation before I come to SMU"

He may be a nice guy, but I prefer a pit-bull.

Time will tell...

[mustangxc]

I definitely miss Orsini! Hart seems like a deer in headlights. Reminds me of the quote in pony excess about Bobby Collins coming into a situation where things were moving at a certain speed and he had thought they were going much slower. We need an AD with the gumption to put coaches and administrators in their place.

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

Well, we'll see. Interesting that the anti-Hart rumblings have started on this board already. "Turner lap-dog", "Turner yes-man". Where is this stuff coming from? The guy's been on the job for less than 90 days. So far, the only thing that's apparent is that he has a different public demeanor than Orsini. So what? That tells us absolutely nothing about the kind of AD Hart will be. Let's just give the guy a chance before we start tearing him down. First big test will be the hiring of a new football staff in a year or two.

[LakeHighlandsPony]

I think 90 days is enough to have told the peasants what the plan, agenda, vision etc.. is going to be. Only Congress gets away with getting paid and not telling you what they are up to.( and DISD officials)