PonyFans.com

Grant Carter wrote:

SMU2007 wrote:none of our recruits have any bcs offers.

That is simply not true. Your point is obviously valid, but when you make things up you end up undermining your argument. Why do that?

This doesn't just pertain to you but the board as a whole. If you say it isn't true, then state why it isn't. I think he's more right than wrong only because we have a transfer that had multiple BCS offers and a TE that had BCS offers. For the most part that's the only recruits that can say that. Hence why I said its more right than wrong.

"decent recruits"

you guys are funny.

i love how people on here complain about the best recruiting class we've had post-DP (last year's). When was the last time we recruited 2 Parade All-Americans? (I can hear all the Debbie Downers now say "but but"). Did you see who offered Stewart? Stephon Sanders? Christian Holloway? Lincoln Richard? Gaines? Sheads? Lowe? etc etc etc. These are not "decent players". They are studs who SMU would have never gotten over for the last 30 years. Understand your history. This is a strong foundation we can build on. Be happy we have them. If we could get them with 2 stars like T Reed, JG, Zach, etc, imagine who we will be getting once these guys get on the field and start performing in 1-2 years. It's a process. We are getting there.

man, I would hate to live in some of your guys' worlds. when the sun comes out on a cold day do you say "yeah, but it's going to go back down again so let's not get too excited."

i'm going to start calling you guys eeyore. quit [deleted] on everything good that happens at smu. be happy for the major upgrades/improvements that are happening.

Beat Memphis!

How can you argue this class is as good as Bennett's first class?

What was so great about Bennett's first class?

ojaipony wrote:"decent recruits"

you guys are funny.

i love how people on here complain about the best recruiting class we've had post-DP (last year's). When was the last time we recruited 2 Parade All-Americans? (I can hear all the Debbie Downers now say "but but"). Did you see who offered Stewart? Stephon Sanders? Christian Holloway? Lincoln Richard? Gaines? Sheads? Lowe? etc etc etc. These are not "decent players". They are studs who SMU would have never gotten over for the last 30 years. Understand your history. This is a strong foundation we can build on. Be happy we have them. If we could get them with 2 stars like T Reed, JG, Zach, etc, imagine who we will be getting once these guys get on the field and start performing in 1-2 years. It's a process. We are getting there.

man, I would hate to live in some of your guys' worlds. when the sun comes out on a cold day do you say "yeah, but it's going to go back down again so let's not get too excited."

i'm going to start calling you guys eeyore. quit [deleted] on everything good that happens at smu. be happy for the major upgrades/improvements that are happening.

Beat Memphis!

Wow, 2 whole parade all Americans. That should beat Baylor and win the BE any year right (we got blasted by Baylor and now you are saying we are going to win the BE)? Look we need to stop comparing SMU now vs SMU of the past because SMU is not in CUSA anymore after this season. Look most of the teams in the BE are at least as talented as Baylor who is a middle to lower level BCS team. The coach that recruited Reed and JG is not here anymore. If we want to win the BE we have to out-recruit Louisville and Rutgers. Tell me how we do against them on signing day is over (looking at offers). SMU has less recruiting restrictions now and should do better in recruiting especially with the BE title behind our names now. If we were staying in CUSA that would be fine but we are not so let's compare what we do against teams that we are going to be playing against starting next year. Rivals rankings (which I know you are hanging your hat on) don't mean and much as offers do and of the 22 players committed only 3 have BCS offers. I don't think you will see that at Louisville, Rutgers or even UCF for that matter. You are funny in a foolish kind of way.

Where in the hell did some one get the idea that last year's recruiting class was our best ever? Couldn't access Rivals rankings right now but we finished in the mid 80's. Last year's class was close to disaster-

Rebel10 wrote:

ojaipony wrote:"decent recruits"

you guys are funny.

i love how people on here complain about the best recruiting class we've had post-DP (last year's). When was the last time we recruited 2 Parade All-Americans? (I can hear all the Debbie Downers now say "but but"). Did you see who offered Stewart? Stephon Sanders? Christian Holloway? Lincoln Richard? Gaines? Sheads? Lowe? etc etc etc. These are not "decent players". They are studs who SMU would have never gotten over for the last 30 years. Understand your history. This is a strong foundation we can build on. Be happy we have them. If we could get them with 2 stars like T Reed, JG, Zach, etc, imagine who we will be getting once these guys get on the field and start performing in 1-2 years. It's a process. We are getting there.

man, I would hate to live in some of your guys' worlds. when the sun comes out on a cold day do you say "yeah, but it's going to go back down again so let's not get too excited."

i'm going to start calling you guys eeyore. quit [deleted] on everything good that happens at smu. be happy for the major upgrades/improvements that are happening.

Beat Memphis!

Wow, 2 whole parade all Americans. That should beat Baylor and win the BE any year right (we got blasted by Baylor and now you are saying we are going to win the BE)? Look most of the teams in the BE are at least as talented as Baylor who is a middle to lower level BCS team.

Wow. When did I ever say we were going to win the BE. I said we would be COMPETITIVE in the Big East right away. And, no, none of the teams in the new BE are as talented as Baylor and certainly not aTm, who routinely get loads of 4 stars (very few in the new BE do and so we are, and have been, very competitive in recruiting against the teams we'll be playing against, especially the last 2 classes as well as this one - the very players who will lead us into the BE). I love how people completely ignore the facts. Here are the facts: Rutgers is the only team ranked higher than us this year in the Rivals rankings and that's only because they got a 4 star. I understand all the stuff about getting other BCS level offers, etc, but it seems you're hanging your hat on that criteria only.

And yes TWO freaking Parade All Americans. What, not enough for you? Have you seen what other schools have 2? What other class has had anything close to that?

Be happy we're progressing. Is it exactly what we want? Of course not. I'm assuming I'm just blinded by the post-DP/pre-JJ years. I went to SMU 1989-1993. We are worlds away from that mess. I've seen in my lifetime getting blown out by Houston (they score 95 freakin' points against us) to seeing us scoring a school record 72 points (I could care less how it happened). This is amazing progress and I CHOOSE to think it's just the beginning of our march towards greatness.

I'm just an optimist by nature I guess and I believe in the law of attraction. You get what you focus on. I focus on the positives and push for more positives. Example, this year, I'm hoping for a CUSA championship and a Hawaii Bowl win along with another stud or 2 recruit. I'd be VERY happy with that.

I'm not interested in engaging with this ongoing "yeah but, yeah but" negative, pessimistic crowd anymore. If you were there pre-DP, cool, I respect your comments. If you were there during the early post-DP days, yes, I definitely respect what you've been through. If you're an alum from the last 5-6 years you really don't know what you're talking about. You don't have a clue.

Stallion wrote:Where in the hell did some one get the idea that last year's recruiting class was our best ever? Couldn't access Rivals rankings right now but we finished in the mid 80's. Last year's class was close to disaster-

I don't know. It wasn't me. It was, however, clearly the best recruiting class post-DP.

How was it close to disaster? 2 Parade All-Americans, Lincoln Richard, Dajuian Stewart, etc. How is that a disaster? Comparing it to the class of 1979, yes, it was terrible. But that's apples and oranges.

SMU2007 wrote:none of our recruits have any bcs offers. I know this topic gets beaten to death, but it can't be a good sign when the schools you are playing don't want the guys you are offering scholarships to. I think June and staff ARE good evaluators of talent (for most positions besides QB), but I don't think you can argue that every single player is a "hidden talent".

Haven't you heard, all of these 1-AA recruits are studs and are totally better than all the other 1-AA recruits before them that were studs but just didn't pan out. This caliber of recruit hasn't won us a thing in C-USA but it'll win Big East titles versus teams that recruit better and are coached better, you'll see (end sarcasm).

ojaipony wrote:And, no, none of the teams in the new BE are as talented as Baylor

Look I like your desire for the team to win but do you do any research before you make statements like that? Compare Baylor's recruiting in the last 3 years and it has has been about like Louisville and Rutgers (some years not as good). Anyway you saw first hand a recruit that this staff went after hard in Bruno but when you saw him in person even you were not impressed (also Riley Dodge was a 1st team Parade All American because they mostly go by high school stats not D1A potential). By the way, Baylor lost to UConn a couple of years ago with RG3 at the helm.

Off season development will be a key in competing next year because of the tough non conference schedule we have.

I am a Pre DP grad (1986) and I do like how were are finishing the class but I wish we had started like we are finishing because we only have 3 more scholarships to give. The 2014 class will be extremely important. I would hope that the the majority of the kids in that class have BCS offers if not we could be a kind of middle of the road team which I don't believe anyone wants. Just sayin.

SMU 86 wrote:I am a Pre DP grad (1986) and I do like how were are finishing the class but I wish we had started like we are finishing because we only have 3 more scholarships to give. The 2014 class will be extremely important. I would hope that the the majority of the kids in that class have BCS offers if not we could be a kind of middle of the road team which I don't believe anyone wants. Just sayin.

Agreed.

Rebel10 wrote:Look I like your desire for the team to win but do you do any research before you make statements like that?

Yes, and I'm going with the product I saw on the field and Baylor looks to me to be much better than Louisville and Rutgers the last 2-3 years talent-wise across the board. Also taking into account the transfers Baylor got outside of the official recruiting classes ala Lache Seastrunk, etc . . . And Terrance Williams was a 2 star with only CSU as the only other offer per Rivals. That guy will definitely be playing on Sundays and neither Louisville or Rutgers has anyone close to that kind of talent. Either he was under the radar or developed or whatever. That's the kind of talent to which I am referring. Oh, and there was also that RG3 guy.

SMU 86 wrote:I am a Pre DP grad (1986) and I do like how were are finishing the class but I wish we had started like we are finishing because we only have 3 more scholarships to give. The 2014 class will be extremely important. I would hope that the the majority of the kids in that class have BCS offers if not we could be a kind of middle of the road team which I don't believe anyone wants. Just sayin.

Aren't we already a middle of the road team?

Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2

abezontar wrote:

SMU 86 wrote:I am a Pre DP grad (1986) and I do like how were are finishing the class but I wish we had started like we are finishing because we only have 3 more scholarships to give. The 2014 class will be extremely important. I would hope that the the majority of the kids in that class have BCS offers if not we could be a kind of middle of the road team which I don't believe anyone wants. Just sayin.

Aren't we already a middle of the road team?

Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2

In C-USA yes, but this type of effort in the Big East will make us a bottom of the barrel team.