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Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:59 am
by No Quarter
HorsePower wrote:Coach candidate: "You just fired the guy who took SMU to 3 (or 4) straight bowls? SMU -- the team some thought simply couldn't win? You fired THAT GUY because ... he looked stoic on the sideline? Sure, I'm interested. With job security like that, start the bidding at $5 million a year and go up from there."
Probably
sbssmith said enough above but if the question were asked part of my reply would be that the overall win percentage for the SMU program is not improving under Jones after five years and has no immediate prospects of getting better.
Forty-eight percent or thereabouts? before Jones? And 29 - 34 or something like since?
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:05 am
by Rebel10
HorsePower wrote:Coach candidate: "You just fired the guy who took SMU to 3 (or 4) straight bowls? SMU -- the team some thought simply couldn't win? You fired THAT GUY because ... he looked stoic on the sideline? Sure, I'm interested. With job security like that, start the bidding at $5 million a year and go up from there."
It is about more than that and you know that. Add the ASU fiasco, not really wanting to be here, antiquated offense that is to complicated and take a year or more to learn evidently, downward turned in recruiting, not being able to develop a QB, his best players seemed to come from the previous coaching staff, agent trashes SMU on the radio during the ASU fiasco, son gets the idea from dad that SMU is a crappy school to coach, and only beating bad teams while getting jacked up by decent teams. Also, 4-25 or something like that against winning teams and getting beaten by Rice and Tulane heading into a tougher conference with less bad teams to try to beat.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:11 am
by I'm4Peruna
[quote="Rebel10"][quote="HorsePower"]Coach candidate: "You just fired the guy who took SMU to 3 (or 4) straight bowls? SMU -- the team some thought simply couldn't win? You fired THAT GUY because ... he looked stoic on the sideline? Sure, I'm interested. With job security like that, start the bidding at $5 million a year and go up from there."[/quote]
It is about more than that and you know that. Add the ASU fiasco, not really wanting to be here, antiquated offense that is to complicated and take a year or more to learn evidently, downward turned in recruiting, not being able to develop a QB, his best players seemed to come from the previous coaching staff, agent trashes SMU on the radio during the ASU fiasco, son gets the idea from dad that SMU is a crappy school to coach, and only beating bad teams while getting jacked up by decent teams. Also, 4-25 or something like that against winning teams and getting beaten by Rice and Tulane heading into a tougher conference with less bad teams to try to beat.[/quote]
+1
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:01 am
by TWALV33
My vote would be for Kingsbury. Need to get an energetic young guy in here, liven up our fan base and our players.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:07 am
by jimhagle
TWALV33 wrote:My vote would be for Kingsbury. Need to get an energetic young guy in here, liven up our fan base and our players.
I echo yout thoughts-seemingly good choice and would bring youth and enthusiasm.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:09 am
by smustatesman
HorsePower wrote:Coach candidate: "You just fired the guy who took SMU to 3 (or 4) straight bowls? SMU -- the team some thought simply couldn't win? You fired THAT GUY because ... he looked stoic on the sideline?"
YES. FTMF
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:13 am
by Pony ^
TWALV33 wrote:My vote would be for Kingsbury. Need to get an energetic young guy in here, liven up our fan base and our players.
he would never come here. he will stay in aggyland while it's building and get a much better job down the road
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:15 am
by Comet
I would go for a young and energetic guy. It's a gamble, but one worth taking in case it pans out. We need someone to feel at home at SMU and grateful for the opportunity to coach here. That's how you build coach loyalty, money will never be able to do that.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:31 am
by Harry0569
Kirby Smart, Bama D-Coord anyone?
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:50 am
by East Coast Mustang
Harry0569 wrote:Kirby Smart, Bama D-Coord anyone?
Why would he take this job? He's in line for Tennessee, or Georgia down the road, or any number of other bigger schools than us.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:21 am
by Rebel10
Pony ^ wrote:TWALV33 wrote:My vote would be for Kingsbury. Need to get an energetic young guy in here, liven up our fan base and our players.
he would never come here. he will stay in aggyland while it's building and get a much better job down the road
You don't know until you a$k.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:22 am
by Rebel10
Might as well add David Bailiff to the list since apparently he would be an upgrade to what SMU has as well.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:37 am
by gostangs
Tennessee is a tough spot? Is he kidding? Its a veritable cake walk compared to our world.
The SEC has any idea how easy they have it. Competition is tough, sure - but they have the entire universe of athletes to recruit and all the money they could reasonably expect - all the attention and not much pro sport competiton.
Bunch of whiners.
And by the way, SMU should not give two seconds thought to the "you could you fire the guy that brought you back?" sentiments. We deserve someone who is on the job - 100% of the time. Yes June helped to bring us back, but many contributed to the changes we have experienced. He has not been that successful when you break it down to who we have actually beaten in the last 5 yrs And for what he has done he was paid very well. Neither party owes anything further to the other.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:01 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
Blakenship would be the smart choice in my opinion. Hes studied our team. He has a low salary. He can be a great transition coach if he can take this team to the same length Tulsa has been taken to. He seems to be able to recruit well. Some of the 2nd and 3rd choices look good too. I agree with ECM, vandy is not letting him go.
Re: For Those of You Worried About a New Head Coach
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:10 pm
by jpe747
I'd like to see JJ respond to the above - tell fans how he hopes to address concerns like stronger recruiting etc. Factually, the best recruiting tool is a winning tradition. SMU must win more games. Nonetheless, recruiting is so difficult.
However, if SMU was to make a change - one coach who has proven he can recruit and might be interested in moving up is an assistant coach at Ucla. If not becoming the head coach perhaps a major pay raise and greater responsibility.