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ponyboy wrote:Remembering that we'd spent twenty years in college football hell, the absolute cellar, what was your reasonable expectation after five years? I'm asking an honest question.

Two conference titles. Top 25 ranking.

mr. pony wrote:

ponyboy wrote:Remembering that we'd spent twenty years in college football hell, the absolute cellar, what was your reasonable expectation after five years? I'm asking an honest question.

Two conference titles. Top 25 ranking.

A signature win over a Big XII foe?!?

All the above...we deserve better....NEVER accept mediocrity...

On our way to Boise State similar non-BCS buster status....showing signs...and actually competing with Top 25 teams.

In my brief bouts of rationality, sobriety, I think of where we have come from and where we are. I can argue with anyone that JJ should be fired or that he should be canonized. What worries me the most about SMU is that there is never a plan we are chasing. We are always in various shades of gray- chasing...mediocrity, status quo.

I can forgive losses to Tulane and Rice if it is a small set back on the road to a somewhere. I am frustrated beyond belief that we are chasing mediocrity or getting mediocrity because we aren't trying to go anywhere. For example our season goal is not the liberty bowl. We are condoning mediocrity before the season starts.

I get turnarounds because that is what I do for a living. I understand most of JJ's behavior and why it frustrates PFs, but if we don't have a long term goal we will never achieve it. I need SMU TO TELL ME SOMETHING, ANYTHING TO KEEP MY FAITH.

I think because SMU was bad for so long that mediocrity is exciting and acceptable for some. I guess some see .500 ball as winning ball.

stc9 wrote:In my brief bouts of rationality, sobriety, I think of where we have come from and where we are. I can argue with anyone that JJ should be fired or that he should be canonized. What worries me the most about SMU is that there is never a plan we are chasing. We are always in various shades of gray- chasing...mediocrity, status quo.

I can forgive losses to Tulane and Rice if it is a small set back on the road to a somewhere. I am frustrated beyond belief that we are chasing mediocrity or getting mediocrity because we aren't trying to go anywhere. For example our season goal is not the liberty bowl. We are condoning mediocrity before the season starts.

I get turnarounds because that is what I do for a living. I understand most of JJ's behavior and why it frustrates PFs, but if we don't have a long term goal we will never achieve it. I need SMU TO TELL ME SOMETHING, ANYTHING TO KEEP MY FAITH.

Actually... this may be the post of the year (sorry Stallion and Captain E.J. Smith)

This is the key....

What are our goals?
Where are we headed?
BE gives additional money...but in the overall scheme...where does that get us?

stc9 wrote:In my brief bouts of rationality, sobriety, I think of where we have come from and where we are. I can argue with anyone that JJ should be fired or that he should be canonized. What worries me the most about SMU is that there is never a plan we are chasing. We are always in various shades of gray- chasing...mediocrity, status quo.

I can forgive losses to Tulane and Rice if it is a small set back on the road to a somewhere. I am frustrated beyond belief that we are chasing mediocrity or getting mediocrity because we aren't trying to go anywhere. For example our season goal is not the liberty bowl. We are condoning mediocrity before the season starts.

I get turnarounds because that is what I do for a living. I understand most of JJ's behavior and why it frustrates PFs, but if we don't have a long term goal we will never achieve it. I need SMU TO TELL ME SOMETHING, ANYTHING TO KEEP MY FAITH.

My concern is that Hart hasn't really made that clear.

ponyboy wrote:Remembering that we'd spent twenty years in college football hell, the absolute cellar, what was your reasonable expectation after five years? I'm asking an honest question.

After about 20 years, and 0-12, and 1-11 seasons, I thought we might finally make a bowl in year
5 of June Jones' contract.

The fact is we have regressed even in a horrible cusa conference. I'm glad we have taken a big step from irrelevant to mediocre but we need someone to take us from mediocre to good/great then eventually from great to powerhouse. JJ has done his part an has leveled off. If we were progressing this would have been the season for a 9-3 with the OOC being competitive if not stolen a win or two.

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:The fact is we have regressed even in a horrible cusa conference. I'm glad we have taken a big step from irrelevant to mediocre but we need someone to take us from mediocre to good/great then eventually from great to powerhouse. JJ has done his part an has leveled off. If we were progressing this would have been the season for a 9-3 with the OOC being competitive if not stolen a win or two.

FROGGIE ALERT/ LIBERAL SOCIALIST FACULTY MAYBE
Want to predict the level off Graduation does that, but once you have time to get PAST
that then you get to PLAN FOR IT

PlanoStang wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:The fact is we have regressed even in a horrible cusa conference. I'm glad we have taken a big step from irrelevant to mediocre but we need someone to take us from mediocre to good/great then eventually from great to powerhouse. JJ has done his part an has leveled off. If we were progressing this would have been the season for a 9-3 with the OOC being competitive if not stolen a win or two.

FROGGIE ALERT/ LIBERAL SOCIALIST FACULTY MAYBE
Want to predict the level off Graduation does that, but once you have time to get PAST
that then you get to PLAN FOR IT

Yeah I suppose. Why do you use so many emoticons that just have a bunch exclamation points?

PlanoStang wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:The fact is we have regressed even in a horrible cusa conference. I'm glad we have taken a big step from irrelevant to mediocre but we need someone to take us from mediocre to good/great then eventually from great to powerhouse. JJ has done his part an has leveled off. If we were progressing this would have been the season for a 9-3 with the OOC being competitive if not stolen a win or two.

FROGGIE ALERT/ LIBERAL SOCIALIST FACULTY MAYBE
Want to predict the level off Graduation does that, but once you have time to get PAST
that then you get to PLAN FOR IT

??????

Once a coach DOESN'T get fired after the first REBUILDING in YEAR 5 or 6 (YOU'VE
heard of graduation, and rebuilding years,) then his plan for the future RECRUITS they've been
scouting, and hearing about since middle school maybe implemented.

Jones checked the bowl games off the list early but we are trending down, have beat few quality opponents, haven't found a QB, still don't have the June Jones offense we paid for and are winning games with freak turnovers, freak kick blocking machine, etc., and have a downward trending staff losing two recruiters and replacing with what seems like none.