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Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:15 am
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
SMU 86 wrote:Aresco did not help himself by inviting Tulane.
It seems like the sensible compromise is to allow the Catholic Seven to not have to play Tulane in basketball until the Green Wave reaches some sort of RPI incentive.

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:50 am
by SMU 86
DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:
SMU 86 wrote:Aresco did not help himself by inviting Tulane.
It seems like the sensible compromise is to allow the Catholic Seven to not have to play Tulane in basketball until the Green Wave reaches some sort of RPI incentive.

Conference RPI is still devalued.

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:53 am
by SMU 86
RGV Pony wrote:That shouldve been a red flag. "Oh man we've finally arrived ! Been wanting to join Dallas National or Northwood or Brookhollow..finally found one to join just like those. Oh, but there's no initiation fee. Just as good though! BCS AQ!"

No conference has entry fees only exit fees to my understganding. I believe Stallion is incorrect on this on. Rutgers, Maryland etc have not entry fees into the Big Ten nor does Louisville have an entry fee into the ACC. You just have to be invited.

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:17 pm
by stc9
Stallion wrote:yeah I actually posted that denuding the Big East of 20 million would definitely buy a lawsuit-but they are talking about exit fees of other schools who have already left. Not sure if we would be entitled to that. But the Big East name and contract rights are part of the package we were offered and accepted-that could bring a lawsuit.
If the 7 leave are they also giving up the NCAA units*? Shouldn't we be entitled to those units in a lawsuit? That is part of the ongoing revenues of the league. That is also part of the package we were offered.

*NCAA Units are the payments for the basketball tournament. For each team that makes the tournament the conference doesn't get paid for it that year. They get paid for it over several years. The NCAA calls these payments units. The further you go in the tournament, the more units you earn. the BE is still owed several years of these units.

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:59 pm
by Stallion
SMU 86 wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:That shouldve been a red flag. "Oh man we've finally arrived ! Been wanting to join Dallas National or Northwood or Brookhollow..finally found one to join just like those. Oh, but there's no initiation fee. Just as good though! BCS AQ!"

No conference has entry fees only exit fees to my understganding. I believe Stallion is incorrect on this on. Rutgers, Maryland etc have not entry fees into the Big Ten nor does Louisville have an entry fee into the ACC. You just have to be invited.
Big East has an entry fee of 2.5 million according to this article about Temple. Now it can be waived and sometimes they take it out of the future stream of revenue during a probationary period but no conference is likely to give an entering school a full cut of an existing TV contract without getting some concession-otherwise they are cutting the same pie more ways

http://articles.philly.com/2012-03-07/n ... o-big-east

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:03 pm
by Stallion
Boise St paying 2.5 Million entry fee to join Big West (in sports other than Football)

http://www.boisestateblue.com/2012/08/2 ... onference/

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:04 pm
by leopold
Funny. Boise could be in the Big West and the Big East at the same time.

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:05 pm
by Stallion
SMU paid an undisclosed entry fee to join CUSA

http://www.raginpagin.com/louisiana/sho ... erence-USA

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:19 pm
by Stallion
Although I was informed by someone who should know that there is no "entry fee" I wouldn't be surprised if there was a concession to future revenues much like Memphis will pay:

Here are the gory financial details for Memphis. There is an entry fee to Big East of $2.5 million that is to be taken out of revenues from the future TV deal over a five year period, so that’s money that Memphis won’t see but doesn’t have right now anyway. There is also an exit fee from Conference-USA that includes a $500K flat fee and $6.1 million in TV rights.

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:28 pm
by leopold
I'm sorry, but any school or individual who didn't see more movement and put money away for such a contengency is a moron - unfortunately that is Memphis sometimes.

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:20 pm
by lwjr
ESPN just scrolled BE Catholic. Bball only schools have voted to leave the conference in 2015

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:35 pm
by PonySnob
Wasn't there an offer of around $150 million/year at one time for the Big East?

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:36 pm
by RGV Pony
I think it was a billion for 10 years marianotto turned down

Re: Aresco Comments

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:56 am
by PonyKris89
RGV Pony wrote:I think it was a billion for 10 years marianotto turned down
Uhh, it really hurts to miss that one Buddy...yeeaaahhhh..