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Charleston Pony wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:

Charleston Pony wrote:would be nice if our new conference has an arrangement with Hawaii Bowl. I still think it's one of the best reward trips for the players

Please be joking, please oh please

not joking at all; for many of those kids, this will be their only chance to see Hawaii.

Gee, all they gotta do is win 6!!!
(SWC SMU is very dead now.)

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:I notice they lowered season ticket prices.

No they didn't. Mine are exactly the same price as this year. In fact, since we only have 6 home games next year, they effectively raised prices.

Big Hoss wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:I notice they lowered season ticket prices.

No they didn't. Mine are exactly the same price as this year. In fact, since we only have 6 home games next year, they effectively raised prices.

Don't we have 6 home games mostly every year?

SMU 86 wrote:

Big Hoss wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:I notice they lowered season ticket prices.

No they didn't. Mine are exactly the same price as this year. In fact, since we only have 6 home games next year, they effectively raised prices.

Don't we have 6 home games mostly every year?

Yes, we typically have 6 every year. This year we had 7, and our ticket prices went up from 2011. Next year, same price as 2012 and back to 6 home games.

SMU_Alumni11 wrote: Every person I have talked to outside of SMU feels bad that we are stuck with June
and that we really need a new coach now.

Really? I have found just the opposite. When I mention to non-SMU people that we may need a new coach...every single one of them have have been like "what?...after what he's done for ya'll? Hasn't he turned SMU around?"....4 straight bowls....blah blah.

I think outside of the SMU crowd...June is still thought of as a positive for SMU and someone that has brought some credibility back to the program.

I think most people on the "outside" are not really aware of the possible recruiting failures and other problems that some of us are worried about. They see SMU as being a loser for the last 20 years and June turned us around.

sbsmith wrote:

Treadway21 wrote:How exactly can we go back to play Hawaii given the bowl tie ins?

It would take an extreme scenario, like C-USA not having enough bowl eligible teams to fill its allotment so the Hawaii Bowl gets punted off to an at-large and we're bowl eligible but our conference has too many bowl-eligible teams for its allotment and we're the odd man out leaving us available to be selected as an at-large.

Thanks didn't even realize that there was even a possibility. Given how remote the chance is, June statement is a little disappointing. Saying that to be nice is one thing, but it just reinforces the conventional wisdom that he cares more about Hawaii's best interests rather than SMU's. Not a smart PR move by JJ.

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote: Every person I have talked to outside of SMU feels bad that we are stuck with June
and that we really need a new coach now.

Really? I have found just the opposite. When I mention to non-SMU people that we may need a new coach...every single one of them have have been like "what?...after what he's done for ya'll? Hasn't he turned SMU around?"....4 straight bowls....blah blah.

I think outside of the SMU crowd...June is still thought of as a positive for SMU and someone that has brought some credibility back to the program.

I think most people on the "outside" are not really aware of the possible recruiting failures and other problems that some of us are worried about. They see SMU as being a loser for the last 20 years and June turned us around.

I get the same response.

Same here.

If the Hawaii bowl ever cease to exist JJ would probably retire due to lack of motivation

He really needs to shut his mouth sometimes.

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:

Charleston Pony wrote:would be nice if our new conference has an arrangement with Hawaii Bowl. I still think it's one of the best reward trips for the players

Please be joking, please oh please

Not hard at all to see why the players love the bowl.

Also not hard to see why fans hate it.

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote: Every person I have talked to outside of SMU feels bad that we are stuck with June
and that we really need a new coach now.

Really? I have found just the opposite. When I mention to non-SMU people that we may need a new coach...every single one of them have have been like "what?...after what he's done for ya'll? Hasn't he turned SMU around?"....4 straight bowls....blah blah.

I think outside of the SMU crowd...June is still thought of as a positive for SMU and someone that has brought some credibility back to the program.

I think most people on the "outside" are not really aware of the possible recruiting failures and other problems that some of us are worried about. They see SMU as being a loser for the last 20 years and June turned us around.

I dunno maybe it's because I'm on the tcu side of the metroplex so they know even with fatter sons help we still suck... I wish I could meet these people so I can knock some sense into them... Getting trounced by Baylor, AM, and losing to Tulane and rice should get any person on the fire JJ bandwagon

Charleston Pony wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote:

Charleston Pony wrote:would be nice if our new conference has an arrangement with Hawaii Bowl. I still think it's one of the best reward trips for the players

Please be joking, please oh please

not joking at all; for many of those kids, this will be their only chance to see Hawaii. I haven't been yet but it's on my bucket list

I have been to Hawaii twice nothing special, I take San Diego. Great weather, don't feel isolated, cheap. I just don't get the thought process though. Why not want tougher bowls and teams o get recognized, to get nfl status then you can go to Hawaii 4 times a year if you like

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:

SMU_Alumni11 wrote: Every person I have talked to outside of SMU feels bad that we are stuck with June
and that we really need a new coach now.

Really? I have found just the opposite. When I mention to non-SMU people that we may need a new coach...every single one of them have have been like "what?...after what he's done for ya'll? Hasn't he turned SMU around?"....4 straight bowls....blah blah.

I think outside of the SMU crowd...June is still thought of as a positive for SMU and someone that has brought some credibility back to the program.

I think most people on the "outside" are not really aware of the possible recruiting failures and other problems that some of us are worried about. They see SMU as being a loser for the last 20 years and June turned us around.

I totally agree ICP. Most football fans have NO idea what really is going on and that includes sportswriters that don't focus on SMU. I have to explain to the casual observer what is really very consistent mediocrity with no hope for a rising sun for SMU. Next year the masses will really understand what has happened because of weak recruiting and no creativity on offense.....unfortunately.

So funny he says that even though there is probably no way that can happen anymore unless we end up in a new hybrid mwc/cusa