4 x 16-20

[RGV Pony]

Big 12 and PAC could merge and form Divisions while releasing 2-4 schools to another conference. 18-20 team Western Conference. That is preferable to both PAC and Big 12 strategically than considering SMU

A merge and booting teams doesn't seem particularly feasible but blowing up the Big 12 and accomplishing the same thing does. If Big10 goes all the way to 20 perhaps they try to pick up a team like Kansas and one other (but who?), and PAC made another run at the Texas/Tech (or more likely TCU for the DFW metroplex) plus Oklahoma/OkSt. again, that would give you 6 teams trying to leave. I suspect a majority of teams could vote to kill the Grant of Rights.

This would save the ACC as the 4th conference, perhaps and probably block us out again.

No conference can disinvite a member, but a conference can decide to end its existence. The more likely scenario is a transition to divisional status with a another conference, thus creating a Super Conference.

Big East booted Temple once upon a time

[lwjr]

But Temple was on double secret probation at the time.

[SMU89]

But Temple was on double secret probation at the time.

Did they put fizzies in the fountain?

[PonySnob]

But Temple was on double secret probation at the time.

Did they put fizzies in the fountain?

Made the toilets explode..........

[Balatro Diabolus Ex]

No conference can disinvite a member, but a conference can decide to end its existence. The more likely scenario is a transition to divisional status with a another conference, thus creating a Super Conference.

Big East booted Temple once upon a time[/quote]

They did, but that was a different situation, Temple was a probationary member, contingent on them reaching specified performance goals, They didnt make the pre-specified minimal performance numbers (victories, and attendance) so they were dropped.

[ReedFrawg]

16 schools is ridiculous to me....can't believe people are even considering 18 or 20 teams in a conference. This whole things is dumb. (And yes I recognize how obvious that last statement is...)

[Water Pony]

One Conference with Divisions (4x 12/14/16/18/20) is close to what we have now, less the ACC

If the major conferences move toward nine or ten game within the Conference, the bigger losers could be CUSA, MAC, SunBelt and WAC (if this conference even plays FB in the future.

The MWC and Big East could continue to be big boys with OCC games ensured, such as TCU/SMU, UT/Utah State/BYU, Navy/ND, CO/CSU, Tulane/LSU, Memphis/UT/Vanderbilt, Louisville/Cincinnati, Penn State/Temple, FL/FSU/USF/UCF/Miami, Stanford/San Jose State, etc.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... -ten-games

[EastStang]

If you did 18, you could have two 9 team divisions. That would be 8 conference games (an even number for home and home) and four non-conference games. If you did 20, you'd probably have to divide into 5 team divisions and then three cross division games or you'd have to have 9 conference games and two divisions. Then you'd need a semi-final and final conference championship. One thing that might be good for us is that these teams might want a few games that aren't meatgrinder games. Look at the SEC. There is no let up in their schedules unless you count UK as a walkover game. Adding an SMU or UH gives them some games that are not for a few years another tough win. The Big XII has some patsies (Kansas, ISU). The B1G has some patsies (sorry General but can you say Illinois, Minnesota and Indiana). The PAC 12 seems to always have teams near the bottom that seem to rotate. WAZZU, Oregon State, Cal has all been pretty weak off and on over the years. And the ACC has a plethora of them. Duke, UVA, UNC, WF, BC, and now add Pitt, and Syracuse.

[Charleston Pony]

I've always thought 18 to be a workable number and might allow more "regionalized" divisions

[Water Pony]

Czar rises: Bob Bowlsby puts Big 12 back in position of power

Article feels Big Ten is likely to go to 16 and, as a result, Bob Bowlsby and Big XII will take two in order to get Championship Game.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footba ... -influence

[AusTxPony]

Of course I would love to see the Big 12 add these 6: Pitt (for WVU), Cincinnati, Louisville, then SMU, Houston and Memphis. Good upgrade for BBall. Not bad for football, but at least locks up the State of Texas. All good markets.

[Water Pony]

Of course I would love to see the Big 12 add these 6: Pitt (for WVU), Cincinnati, Louisville, then SMU, Houston and Memphis. Good upgrade for BBall. Not bad for football, but at least locks up the State of Texas. All good markets.

It would be great, but unlikely. FSU and Clemson are most often mentioned. FB Powerhouses. If they also want 16, then they will arm wrestle Big10 and SEC to the best of the ACC before taking BE schools.

In this scenario, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis and SMU would more likely be backfill for ACC. Big XII wants to add markets outside their current footprint.

Again, the 'initiator' will be the Big Ten.

[Water Pony]

Big Ten AD's meeting:

It is easier to schedule with 16 or more teams. Look out Nelly.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/i ... -decisions

[smusportspage]

Whoop, there it is! Whoop, there it is! Get the popcorn.

[LHS81]