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on the one hand, it's nice we have the luxury of developing guys for years before they are counted on to contribute

on the other hand, it sure would be nice to have more impact Frosh recruits and an overall upgrade in talent...so we didn't have to schedule FCS teams hoping for wins

with 4 years of eligibility, let's hope Holloway becomes the player the coaches think he can be

I know I get a lot of [deleted] on this board for talking about Holloway but I saw him in high school and he's just another breed of athlete that has not been seen here at SMU post-DP: 6''5", 260 with a 4.6 40, long arms, tenacious, etc. I understand he didn't play much in high school but as they say you can't teach talent - I think it would be much easier for him to stay at DE (where we have a much bigger need) and learn that position than move over to OT (where we, shockingly, seem to be pretty solid in terms of young depth).

I'm sure Zach Wood and Beau Barnes are good guys. Nothing personal at all. But they remind of the guys who played when I was there (1989-1993) like a Chad Patton. Decent talent (especially for a non-BCS type school) but no where near where we need to be. Wood is undersized and Beau Barnes is not very athletic (was a walk on I believe).

But what do I know.

Wood is listed on-line at 6'3" and 265, and I think PP reported here during the season that he had gained weight over that. How is that undersized?

ojaipony wrote:I know I get a lot of [deleted] on this board for talking about Holloway but I saw him in high school and he's just another breed of athlete that has not been seen here at SMU post-DP: 6''5", 260 with a 4.6 40, long arms, tenacious, etc. I understand he didn't play much in high school but as they say you can't teach talent - I think it would be much easier for him to stay at DE (where we have a much bigger need) and learn that position than move over to OT (where we, shockingly, seem to be pretty solid in terms of young depth).

I'm sure Zach Wood and Beau Barnes are good guys. Nothing personal at all. But they remind of the guys who played when I was there (1989-1993) like a Chad Patton. Decent talent (especially for a non-BCS type school) but no where near where we need to be. Wood is undersized and Beau Barnes is not very athletic (was a walk on I believe).

But what do I know.

Good you saw him actually play and came away impressed. Our D line better be outstanding next year because if not this move is the wrong one in my opinion.

HAHA

I love this thread.

Holloway won't be heard from again.

sbsmith wrote:Holloway won't be heard from again.

Unfortunately, you might be right but I hope not.

I posted about two weeks ago that Holloway had been moved to OL. Now we will be reading how he should be starting and that everyone else is average or undersized in the OL. I heard he is around 280+ lbs. Since he is a gifted athletes as some people say I'm sure he will make the adjustment to OL.

Wasn't Patton all swc one year? I would love to have two of him.

I look at this and to me it just means he was going to sit third string at de for the next two years, so the are switching him over

JasonB wrote:Wasn't Patton all swc one year? I would love to have two of him.

I look at this and to me it just means he was going to sit third string at de for the next two years, so the are switching him over

He never hit the practive field so you don't know what he would have done. As PP stated Mason wanted him. But we do need OT's and he is tall and athletic. I hope it works out but if it doesn't it might be a terrible waste.

bigstangsfan wrote: Since he is a gifted athletes as some people say I'm sure he will make the adjustment to OL.

I hope you are right if not it would be a terrible waste because change in positions do not always work even of you are a talented athlete.

sbsmith wrote:Holloway won't be heard from again.

Wow. Great fan.

Plenty of players switch positions and end up doing just fine. Here's hoping Holloway makes you completely depressed by being a solid player once he learns his new position.

Holloway was billed as a rare play-maker...how many play-making OTs do you know...gifted yes, play-making no.

Lefty wrote:

sbsmith wrote:Holloway won't be heard from again.

Wow. Great fan.

Plenty of players switch positions and end up doing just fine. Here's hoping Holloway makes you completely depressed by being a solid player once he learns his new position.

And plenty don't. I don't think he meant that comment to be negative towards Holloway. SBS was just stating his disappointment in the move. Nothing wrong with that on a message board.