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Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:57 pm
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
Why dilute the money and give others an opportunity to be higher in the pecking order than we might be when the inevitable happens?

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:30 pm
by Water Pony
Apparently the goal is to have 12 schools, so the TBNamed Conference can host a Championship Game. It will give us 11 BB schools, as well, excluding Navy.

In the end, the ESPN and CBS deals accomplish one of Mike Aresco's major objectives, media access, visibility and branding opportunities. He has done a good job, so far with the hand we were dealt.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:14 pm
by Maine Mustang
Junior wrote:just a matter of time til rice and utep join us now...
Give me a break and get off your high gelding. Tulsa has consistently fielded quality football and basketball programs for a decade more than we have. 'Its just a matter of time before SMU joins us now' is what each of the conferences that we've joined over the past two decades have cried. It's also what BC and Wake and Duke are saying today. Tulsa is a great addition and are is more likely to win a Championship in our new conference before we do. Welcome Golden Hurricane fans...

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:21 pm
by SMU 86
Well Tulsa did win CUSA in football.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:23 pm
by SMU2007
Maine Mustang wrote:
Junior wrote:just a matter of time til rice and utep join us now...
Give me a break and get off your high gelding. Tulsa has consistently fielded quality football and basketball programs for a decade more than we have. 'Its just a matter of time before SMU joins us now' is what each of the conferences that we've joined over the past two decades have cried. It's also what BC and Wake and Duke are saying today. Tulsa is a great addition and are is more likely to win a Championship in our new conference before we do. Welcome Golden Hurricane fans...
I agree. Tulsa is far from the worst member of this not so new conference.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:34 pm
by sbsmith
DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:Why dilute the money and give others an opportunity to be higher in the pecking order than we might be when the inevitable happens?

Tulsa is not a threat to our spot in the pecking order. Aresco's conference is their ceiling.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:59 pm
by Water Pony
Maine Mustang wrote:
Junior wrote:just a matter of time til rice and utep join us now...
Give me a break and get off your high gelding. Tulsa has consistently fielded quality football and basketball programs for a decade more than we have. 'Its just a matter of time before SMU joins us now' is what each of the conferences that we've joined over the past two decades have cried. It's also what BC and Wake and Duke are saying today. Tulsa is a great addition and are is more likely to win a Championship in our new conference before we do. Welcome Golden Hurricane fans...
I agree, Maine. Turning our nose down at Tulsa joining would be arrogant on our part. On the field and court, they have had the better program for the last 25 years. The Golden Hurricanes strengthened the new League and gives the western schools, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Tulane, and Memphis, good driveable rivarlies. Beating them, Cincinnati, Temple, both Florida schools, ECU, Navy and UConn will be a challenge. Remember the goal is to top this group and qualify for the one non Power Conference Bowl spot being made available, i.e. ranked higher than the MWC best school.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:07 pm
by SMU2007
Water Pony wrote:
Maine Mustang wrote:
Junior wrote:just a matter of time til rice and utep join us now...
Give me a break and get off your high gelding. Tulsa has consistently fielded quality football and basketball programs for a decade more than we have. 'Its just a matter of time before SMU joins us now' is what each of the conferences that we've joined over the past two decades have cried. It's also what BC and Wake and Duke are saying today. Tulsa is a great addition and are is more likely to win a Championship in our new conference before we do. Welcome Golden Hurricane fans...
and qualify for the one non Power Conference Bowl spot being made available, i.e. ranked higher than Boise.
Fify

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:43 am
by ponyboy
I'm ok with all things Golden Hurricane, well except for the name Golden Hurricane. Sounds like a fraternity initiation rite. Probably the lamest mascot name in NCAA history. First of all, why would a hurricane be yellow? Second of all, how many hurricanes is Mother Nature throwing down up there in Tulsa, Oklahoma?

Also, somebody above said their attendance is better than ours. Not so, even with ten win seasons.

Tulsa's hardly the tv market.

But they have been a very successful program for a while now, often knocking on Top 25. And strong bball program too.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:45 am
by GRGB
dr rc wrote:I don't get why the new BE wants Tulsa. They are a tiny school with hardly any fans. While their football is decent right now, they could just as easily fall off a cliff for the next 20 years.

I would think that taking UMass out of the MAC would be a better long term move. Its in a bigger metro area by far, it has way more alumni and students, and they have decent basketball history to go with their new commitment to football.

Perhaps it doesnt matter as I think y'all have a decent chance of ending up in the ACC depending on how many other schools are willing to pay whatever Maryland eventually settles on as their penalty for leaving.
UMass has been playing D1a fb for how long? 3 years?

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:47 am
by GRGB
ponyboy wrote:I'm ok with all things Golden Hurricane, well except for the name Golden Hurricane. Sounds like a fraternity initiation rite. Probably the lamest mascot name in NCAA history. First of all, why would a hurricane be yellow? Second of all, how many hurricanes is Mother Nature throwing down up there in Tulsa, Oklahoma?

Also, somebody above said their attendance is better than ours. Not so, even with ten win seasons.

Tulsa's hardly the tv market.

But they have been a very successful program for a while now, often knocking on Top 25. And strong bball program too.
What? We had the Golden Hurricanes, Golden Eagles, and the Golden Knights when we joined CUSA, and a Green Wave. We were Colorful USA conference.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:56 am
by Water Pony
From Tulsa's Athletic Website:

A Hurricane In Tulsa?

The origination of The University of Tulsa nickname - Golden Hurricane - came in 1922. A new football coach, Howard Acher, came to town and inherited a slew of nicknames dating back to 1895.

Past Tulsa teams were referred to as Kendallites, Presbyterians, Tigers, Orange and Black, and Tulsans. In the fall of 1922, the team nickname was "Yellow Jackets," which was apparently due to the fact that the team was wearing new black and yellow uniforms instead of the traditional orange and black.

The team opened the season and it was apparent that Tulsa was going to have a great year, and trying to seize some publicity for his team, Acher wanted to find a new nickname quickly.

After a remark was made in practice one day about "roaring through opponents," and because of their new jersey colors, he thought of Golden Tornadoes. However, he quickly found out that the name had been taken by Georgia Tech a few years earlier. From the tornado, he evolved meteorologically to the hurricane. A few days before the team left for a game against Texas A&M, Acher asked the squad to vote on the name, and thus "Golden Hurricane" was born

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:03 am
by EastStang
I would look at some CAA or Atlantic 10 teams to bolster our hoops on the east coast allowing us two divisions. We could add as many as five teams. With VCU and now GMU having left the CAA, they're in trouble. Or solidify the midwest with St. Louis sitting out there, Creighton, and Wichita State.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:10 am
by mustangxc
Football schools only! Having basketball schools only in an FBS conference is what did in the Big East we joined.

Re: ESPN: Sources: Tulsa to Big East

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:02 pm
by Water Pony
Tulsa Blogger on the new Big East, Old Big East or the Old, Old Big East.

http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2013 ... -big-east/