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Right.

You take flippin' Atlanta in the early nineties to the playoffs, and do it with Jeff George, and the get handed Mr. Dumpster-fire himself, Ryan Leaf, and your the one who stinks.

Just 'cause the print it doesn't make it true.

That list is so idiotic I thought BleacherReport came up with it.

This list is incredibly irrelevant to anything regarding smu football.

Who cares. There's no relationship between college and nfl success. Completely different games.

HorsePower wrote:Saban stunk in the NFL. Pitino and Calipari stunk in the NBA. Completely meaningless.

And yes, you do get credit for beating teams you should beat, because unless you're Alabama or LSU or something, almost any team can upset another. Stop bashing our coach.

Do penciled in losses count for anything?

Read this article in the Bleacher Report a year ago. Recycled for the off season.

Rebel10 wrote:Do penciled in losses count for anything?

Hilarious -- even after 100,000 repetitions. Seriously, it's like dismissing the college careers of Danny Wuerffel and Mike Rozier (look it up) and Courtney Brown (look it up) and Vince Young and any of a number of other players who were stars in college and didn't reach the same levels of success in the pros. It's a different game.

"Over at SMU, the Mustangs got everything they expected out of junior college transfer Traylon Shead and Prescott Line. They are both tasked with replacing Zach Line in the backfield. SMU also made some big national headlines when it hired Hal Mumme, giving the Mustangs two men credited with many of the offensive innovations we have seen over the past two decades both in college and pro football."

Chasing L'ville, ESPN 5/2/13

Serious question: Did June do anything innovative at any coaching stop where Mouse Davis was not involved?

Definitely! He turned SMU football around.

I think the next few years with the move to the new conference will cement his legacy whether it be god, bad or mixed.. Handing over the play calling to Mumme had to be hard but something had to be done...although handing it off to another middle-aged guy trying to work his way back up is yet to be seen. If they win and go to a bowl it would be amazing considering how poorly they have recruited Texas and with no more gimmes on the schedule

ghost wrote:If they win and go to a bowl it would be amazing considering how many players few other schools wanted but who developed into strong players and have since graduated, several with a chance at continuing their playing careers the NFL.

Another way of looking at it. I'm with you: if SMU makes a bowl this year after losing a senior class like that, it will be an enormous accomplishment.

MV pony wrote:"Over at SMU, the Mustangs got everything they expected out of junior college transfer Traylon Shead and Prescott Line. They are both tasked with replacing Zach Line in the backfield. SMU also made some big national headlines when it hired Hal Mumme, giving the Mustangs two men credited with many of the offensive innovations we have seen over the past two decades both in college and pro football."

Chasing L'ville, ESPN 5/2/13

Got everything we expected? Like the rest of you, I hope Shead and PLine and Nlemchi are the second coming of Waggoner, Dickerson and James, but they have yet to play a snap on offense, right? They look good in practice, but let's see them do it in games. I have every faith that they will, but who wrote this piece, saying we "got everything we expected"?

Let's run out and hire Tom Coughlan. He can coach in the NFL, but by most accounts is universally disliked by his players. Want to put him out recruiting?

ghost wrote:I think the next few years with the move to the new conference will cement his legacy whether it be god, bad or mixed.. Handing over the play calling to Mumme had to be hard but something had to be done...although handing it off to another middle-aged guy trying to work his way back up is yet to be seen. If they win and go to a bowl it would be amazing considering how poorly they have recruited Texas and with no more gimmes on the schedule

June will still call the plays.

Some of the best college coaches in history could be labeled as some of the absolute WORST NFL coaches in history -


Saban
Spurrier
Petrino
Lou Holtz
Dennis Erickson
Mike Riley
Frank Kush



apples to oranges.