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Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:26 pm
by JasonB
UTSA wins: 192, 250, 236, 150, 99, 76, 211.

If June did that here, all we would hear about is how he is taking advantage of a weak schedule and lost to 55, 65, and 74.

Coker has done a great job in three years there, but they aren't world beaters yet.

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:30 pm
by SMU 86
JasonB wrote:UTSA wins: 192, 250, 236, 150, 99, 76, 211.

If June did that here, all we would hear about is how he is taking advantage of a weak schedule and lost to 55, 65, and 74.

Coker has done a great job in three years there, but they aren't world beaters yet.


What are our wins against this year? And what do those numbers represent (please give a link if possible)?

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:36 pm
by Stallion
-as if SMU doesn't have every advantage in the world over Rice anyway. SMU is paying 2 million a year, has minimal NCAA admission standards, has better, more modern facilities and beats Rice in just about any football metric you want to use. SMU's victories

95 Memphis
122 Temple
132 Connecticut
137 South Florida
167 Montana St

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:40 pm
by SMU 86
Right and I believe last year we only beat one FBS with a winning record during the regular season.

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:41 pm
by sbsmith
We beat Montana State not Rutgers

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:44 pm
by Stallion
sorry I also was comparing Rice when I should have been comparing UTSA. Fixed it

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:44 pm
by SMU 86
I also thought Coach Jones wanting to schedule more bad teams in the future to guarantee 6 wins.

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:53 pm
by Stallion
Rice has 2 victories better than SMU's best victories-UTSA (77) and Tulane (89) plus they beat a BCS team (Kansas) plus they easily outperformed SMU against both A&M and UH

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:22 pm
by Big Hoss
Rice would beat us pretty easily this year, IMO.

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:04 am
by JasonB
The rankings are the Massey rankings.

Not saying we haven't been disappointing this season, just saying don't blow up the Rice, UTSA, and UNT records more than what they are. We would have a winning schedule with their schedules as well.

Rice played A&M without JM for a half, and he is that entire team.

Against the UTSA schedule, we would have minimum 6 wins and June has had a decent track record against teams in the 70s, so probably more than that.

And yes, comparing us to them sucks because we do have a ton of advantages. I just think twe should be focusing on the core issues - that we haven't beaten anyone decent this year, and what needs to change in order to make that happen.

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:08 am
by Stallion
Yes and I'm sure we'd be undefeated in the Southland Conference. What we are saying is that we expect more than that.

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:22 am
by orguy
I think I was one of the few who suggested Coker as a good candidate for SMU back in 08.

Coker is definitely a guy who has experience at all levels. That 2001 U team was one of the greatest ever. Could not believe he had so many problems finding a coaching gig after getting canned in 06. Obviously he lost control of the Miami program but his resume is stacked with winning programs.

UTSA has it going on. Only 3 years out and look what they have accomplished. I wish them well.

Re: UTSA goes 7-5, 6-2 in conference

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:32 am
by Pony in SA
Stallion wrote:Yes and I'm sure we'd be undefeated in the Southland Conference. What we are saying is that we expect more than that.


Exactly, just pointing out we should be doing much better and no excuse we are not doing so or having some type of plan to do so.