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Charleston Pony wrote:just show up with a bunch of buddies and bring paper bags to put over your heads if the game gets out of hand. No signage needed.

I've though about bringing a paper bag, but it's not like we are 0-11 right now. As bad as it is, it could be a lot worse (and likely will be....).

Right-its an overreach. You crazy kids don't know the hell we have lived through. Remember these are the Glory Days of Modern SMU football.

It is not the players' fault. No bags please.

If there were only a retro 2007 look we could throw on to show we've come full circle.

mrydel wrote:It is not the players' fault. No bags please.

No worries. 104 will be bag free. And free bags.

I don't have a problem with it.

Whoever said "Born in June, Over by Midseason" that would make an awesome sign. Please do that.

ponyinNC wrote:"Born in June - Dead by Midseason"

Perfect


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mrydel wrote:He would probably take more notice if you threw socks.

I'm sure he doesn't own any


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We had to sneak in signs to moody last year (ridiculous BTW they were just blow ups of Larry Browns head) so that's not an issue. If we get kicked out after a while its whatever.

Yeah how would it look on ESPN is a very good point, last thing we want to do is hurt the program. We all want to see it succeed.

In regards to we are spoiled and we haven't seen the bad years and should be grateful we win some games, I agree and think that's to this programs advantage that we are spoiled. The young fans have only seen us in crappy bowls and are bored with that already, we all want more success and demand more. We are the "I want it now" generation, for better or worse, and we want success now and quick. Or at the very least some hype for the future (ie: basketball). I think some of you old timers are happy we are at least winning sometimes and aren't in the bad years anymore. But I think that attitude doesn't get us to any national relevance ever. To build a fan base, especially in the student body, you have to be able to sell a bright future (basketball), and football does not have that with this current coach, and we want that displeasure to be heard. I say all this with the upmost respect to everyone here who is a longtime fan/booster, and even with respect to Jones for pulling us out of the dark years. The students owe him a lot because so far we have never known anything other than SMU playing in a bowl game at the end of year.


I agree it's not at all the players fault, and don't want it to be viewed that way. I have buddies on the team (some that are frustrated with June as well) and I agree its very unclassy and no way I would do it if we were alumni, but come on thats what college kids do. I think a kid can get away with that kind of stuff a lot more then an adult. Same with the difference in how students yell at opposing teams and how alumni do.

Example: If a 40 year old guy starts yelling at some guy on the field about his mom (or whatever your taunt is) thats weird. If an 18 year old punk does it, right or wrong, its at least a lot more accepted.

All good points I think. I am really happy that you guys have it better than most of us did. But like you said, we all have to see that this is moving forward, and you are correct in seeing that it's just not right now.

mrydel wrote:He would probably take more notice if you threw socks.

LOL. A++

coloradoStang wrote:We had to sneak in signs to moody last year (ridiculous BTW they were just blow ups of Larry Browns head) so that's not an issue. If we get kicked out after a while its whatever.

Yeah how would it look on ESPN is a very good point, last thing we want to do is hurt the program. We all want to see it succeed.

In regards to we are spoiled and we haven't seen the bad years and should be grateful we win some games, I agree and think that's to this programs advantage that we are spoiled. The young fans have only seen us in crappy bowls and are bored with that already, we all want more success and demand more. We are the "I want it now" generation, for better or worse, and we want success now and quick. Or at the very least some hype for the future (ie: basketball). I think some of you old timers are happy we are at least winning sometimes and aren't in the bad years anymore. But I think that attitude doesn't get us to any national relevance ever. To build a fan base, especially in the student body, you have to be able to sell a bright future (basketball), and football does not have that with this current coach, and we want that displeasure to be heard. I say all this with the upmost respect to everyone here who is a longtime fan/booster, and even with respect to Jones for pulling us out of the dark years. The students owe him a lot because so far we have never known anything other than SMU playing in a bowl game at the end of year.


I agree it's not at all the players fault, and don't want it to be viewed that way. I have buddies on the team (some that are frustrated with June as well) and I agree its very unclassy and no way I would do it if we were alumni, but come on thats what college kids do. I think a kid can get away with that kind of stuff a lot more then an adult. Same with the difference in how students yell at opposing teams and how alumni do.

Example: If a 40 year old guy starts yelling at some guy on the field about his mom (or whatever your taunt is) thats weird. If an 18 year old punk does it, right or wrong, its at least a lot more accepted.

This class of 85 old timer IS NOT happy with the state of our football program. This is not the SMU I chose to attend and it is not a school I would chose to attend today. Fire Turner first, then June.

coloradoStang wrote:Considering bringing a couple "Fire June" signs to the game with a few buddies. I've only followed SMU since I started school here, but I (like many of you) don't see much upside to the program if we keep him around. And am worried we are being left behind and in the future will have no school to root for in college football.

Considering basic "Fire June" maybe a "10 mil for what? 0-34" and "don't settle for middle of the pack (with an AAC logo)"

anyways we don't want to offend the players at all because we appreciate what they do, also I'm sure June is a great guy we just need a change and I feel like students doing something like this can be written off as "just dumb college kids" so we can get away it with a lot better then some of you angry alums can but it still shows the guys in the suites the student body is not happy.

It's a way to make our opinion heard, that a change needs to be made, but we don't want to offend players, or hurt recruiting (if there is any) by showing discontent in the program. Is this just totally classless or a halfway decent idea?

Thoughts? Comments?

Makes you and our school look dumb.

I just don't see what good it'd do. The COC more than likely already knows how we feel and really what they think seems to be the only thing that matters. If people were to see it on television (if anyone watches) then I think it would only reinforce their stereotypes of us.