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Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:16 pm
by flockofseagulls
you'll have to explain to me when Red Jesus was a college coach in any capacity.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:23 pm
by gostangs
I think there is a realization amongst the 4-5 big buck guys that matter that it is time for a young fire eater to take the helm.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:14 am
by leopold
flockofseagulls wrote:sidebar: exactly how positive are we that SMU will move on from June Jones when his contract is up after this season? and even if he opts to retire, how can we be so sure that Gerald Turner won't dictate that someone else be hired who is a disinterested seat-warmer who will shoot for a .500 football program? people point to the larry brown hiring as a sign that SMU will hire someone who wants to aggressively improve the football program, but Turner may view basketball and football as wholly different endeavors, with one less risky to his legacy than the other. and even if he was willing to make a splash with the next football coach, have the mudiay and frazier/DISD ordeals frightened him off of that?

i just want to have realistic expectations so we aren't crushed next spring when SMU announces that it's hiring Yale's former tight ends coach to replace june.

SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:38 pm
by ponyboy
gostangs wrote:sigh……only 5 months to go before we can get back to real coach who actually trys to play to win instead of appear like he is a mad scientist wonk.
I like the mad scientist approach. It's a lot of fun. Good article and good publicity.


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Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:29 pm
by gostangs
What would be fun is winning a game against an old SWC foe every other year or so, and ending up in a meaningful bowl. Neither of those things can happen until we recruit better, which isn't going to happen under this regime.

Bring on the fire-breather. Captain no-pulse isn't working.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:35 pm
by sbsmith
ponyboy wrote:
I like the mad scientist approach. It's a lot of fun. Good article and good publicity.


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Embrace Mediocrity

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:48 am
by ponyboy
Huh? I realize how thinking outside the box might make small minds uncomfortable, but where did I ever suggest mediocrity was acceptable?

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:51 am
by ponyboy
gostangs wrote:What would be fun is winning a game against an old SWC foe every other year or so, and ending up in a meaningful bowl. Neither of those things can happen until we recruit better, which isn't going to happen under this regime.

Bring on the fire-breather. Captain no-pulse isn't working.
He's not a no-pulse guy. He's just wierd, unconventional. Been outstanding for the school in the time he's been here.

But agreed we need to move on unless something changes dramatically on the talent acquisition front. Basketball -- DONE. Let's now turn all those enormous resources and efforts to football, the bigger sport.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:24 am
by PerunaPunch
What enormous resources? Are we still talking about SMU?

You guys do realize we lucked into Coach Brown, despite our best efforts to the contrary, right? Sure we threw resources at upgrading Moody, but that had been on the drawing board for what, a decade or more?

Also, there is no guarantee that the CoC will PonyUp for a marquis "name" coach again. I would love it if that were true. And that may be the case, but if it is, it's not a rumor I've heard.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:03 am
by redpony
PerunaPunch wrote: Also, there is no guarantee that the CoC will PonyUp for a marquis "name" coach again. I would love it if that were true. And that may be the case, but if it is, it's not a rumor I've heard.
And if we have to settle for a 'second class' coach why do we think we belong in 'big time fball' any longer. Can you say ' Div. II?

Chances are that this will be our last opportunity to impress those who may expand their P5 conferences in the future. IMO downgrading our coaching etc. will not move us up. Surely the LB success should prove that top quality coaches and commitment to the program can build winners and fill empty seats.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:30 pm
by hoopmanx
ponyboy wrote:
gostangs wrote:What would be fun is winning a game against an old SWC foe every other year or so, and ending up in a meaningful bowl. Neither of those things can happen until we recruit better, which isn't going to happen under this regime.

Bring on the fire-breather. Captain no-pulse isn't working.
He's not a no-pulse guy. He's just wierd, unconventional. Been outstanding for the school in the time he's been here.

But agreed we need to move on unless something changes dramatically on the talent acquisition front. Basketball -- DONE. Let's now turn all those enormous resources and efforts to football, the bigger sport.
Hell naw. Its NEVER happening in football, even w/a fire breather who recruits. The landscape pretty much won't permit it. We had a window in hoops we've seized, but that dies when LB retires, cause Jank has no history at this level. You pocket your resources for a potential Jank buyout

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:58 pm
by sbsmith
ponyboy wrote:
He's not a no-pulse guy. He's just weird, unconventional. Been outstanding for the school in the time he's been here.

He certainly hasn't been outstanding versus legit competition.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:02 pm
by PonySnob
sbsmith wrote:
ponyboy wrote:
He's not a no-pulse guy. He's just weird, unconventional. Been outstanding for the school in the time he's been here.

He certainly hasn't been outstanding versus legit competition.
#neverforgettulane2012

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:57 pm
by ponyboy
He's taken us to levels that we had not seen in a couple of three decades. Never said we were a legit threat to any real team under JJ.

Re: SMU Football Recruiting Track and Field, Rugby Athletes

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:05 pm
by PK
ponyboy wrote:He's taken us to levels that we had not seen in a couple of three decades. Never said we were a legit threat to any real team under JJ.
Sure am glad it isn't any of my money involved in paying him 2 million a year for that. Being better than we were for the previous twenty years is a pretty low bar to jump. Shouldn't take 2 million a year to just jump it a bit. If it was any of my money I would be expecting a hell of a lot more than what we have gotten.

He would probably be a good offensive coordinator, but he is not so good a head coach. There is a whole long list of things a head coach has to be focused on with recruiting being at the top of the list. The Head Coach is an administrator first and is responsible for the program. If the program isn't going where it needs to go, then it's the HC's problem to solve and if he can't solve it he needs to be replaced...just like any manager in any company would be. Seven years should have been plenty of time to get the job done.

That's my two cents worth.