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Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:15 pm
by StallionsModelT
The SMU job could be a monster job for the right coach. You win big here (and by win big I mean more than just one win against TCU and a bunch of .500 seasons) and you can write your ticket to the next huge opening around the country. With the increased exposure of the AAC, location, academics, facilities, and $$$, there is zero reason why a top notch coordinator wouldn't consider coming to SMU. Face it. We aren't going the Cavan/Bennett route.

Also, talked to a buddy who is tight with a CoC member. He told me two very important things:

1) Next HC will be paid same or slightly more than JJ
2) Budget for assistants will be increased

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:17 pm
by GreenbeltPony
Why not both? Hit DFW + Texas hard.

HC: Chad Morris
OC: David Beaty
DC: ???

And then I wake up.

edit: looks like a few other people had the pipedream before me.

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:19 pm
by Stallion
For the first 20 years we didn't have the admission Model to compete
Plus we've never tried the Model + Texas recruiting staff
We've tried everything else-why not try the idea with the most common sense especially if we are talking about a hot national offensive coordinator. Todd Graham is a great example of what we are trying to pull together. See the thread about Norvell and all the top young assistant that came through that program. Graham a product of Texas High School football

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:20 pm
by Rebel10
GreenbeltPony wrote:Why not both? Hit DFW + Texas hard.

HC: Chad Morris
OC: David Beaty
DC: ???

And then I wake up.

Dream team there. Question is could we pull it off?

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:21 pm
by floridianstang
StallionsModelT wrote:The SMU job could be a monster job for the right coach. You win big here (and by win big I mean more than just one win against TCU and a bunch of .500 seasons) and you can write your ticket to the next huge opening around the country. With the increased exposure of the AAC, location, academics, facilities, and $$$, there is zero reason why a top notch coordinator wouldn't consider coming to SMU. Face it. We aren't going the Cavan/Bennett route.

Also, talked to a buddy who is tight with a CoC member. He told me two very important things:

1) Next HC will be paid same or slightly more than JJ
2) Budget for assistants will be increased


Just knowing that the A&M debacle will be televised on ABC/ESPN2 and basketball gets 24 games on national TV is an indicator of the strength of AAC's tv deal. Agree that it does not compare to P5 deals in monetary terms but we do get a much bigger stage than what programs TCU, Boise and Utah ever had.

Also, we never know what may happen and if winning big* here makes this a long stop for whoever comes here.

*winning big = 10+ wins, parity w TCU, close gap against BU and TT, AAC championships.

It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:22 pm
by floridianstang
Rebel10 wrote:
GreenbeltPony wrote:Why not both? Hit DFW + Texas hard.

HC: Chad Morris
OC: David Beaty
DC: ???

And then I wake up.

Dream team there. Question is could we pull it off?


I think so. And yes we have not talked about a DC. Maybe Mason could keep his job?

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:24 pm
by sbsmith
Rebel10 wrote:Dream team there. Question is could we pull it off?



Yes, if the CoC is prepared to money whip the living daylights out of Beaty to get him to take a G5 assistant job. Of course Aggy could beat any offer.

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:28 pm
by GreenbeltPony
Rebel10 wrote:
GreenbeltPony wrote:Why not both? Hit DFW + Texas hard.

HC: Chad Morris
OC: David Beaty
DC: ???

And then I wake up.

Dream team there. Question is could we pull it off?


Anything's possible, especially if StallionModelT's two points are true. I bet Beaty's ready for another shot at being an OC (was Rice's OC in 2010 and then KU's Co-OC in 2011).

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:29 pm
by Stallion
yeah but won't be a Coordinator
If he wants to be a Head Coach he needs to pad his resume and the present coordinator is 29
Sometimes A Coordinator job can be very enticing-especially if he is a good friend of Morris
Plus he could recruit in DFW where he would be coaching

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:33 pm
by StallionsModelT
Our HC will be a $2.5M a year guy.

The budget for assistants will be increased but my contact didn't say by how much. In order to land a truly elite OC/DC and staff full of badass recruiters we will need to seriously up the ante.

The good news from what I've been told is that Hart and the CoC know this. They tried to go the "coach em up" route with June Jones. Eventually, even if you are a guru, if your players aren't very good it doesn't matter. Not to mention the R&S is an antiquated relic that no one uses anymore for a reason.

FWIW, I do think we could hire Morris, Beatty, and a really highly regarded DC. We have that ability.

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:37 pm
by GreenbeltPony
DC: The one and only... Phil Bennett.

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:41 pm
by Rebel10
GreenbeltPony wrote:DC: The one and only... Phil Bennett.

:lol:

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:47 pm
by StallionsModelT
Dream Staff:

HC - Morris
Co OC's - Klemm/Beatty
DC - Manny Diaz (former UT DC and current La Tech DC)

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:51 pm
by Rebel10
Wasn't Diaz's defenses weak against the spread offenses?

Re: It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:53 pm
by sbsmith
Stallion wrote:yeah but won't be a Coordinator
If he wants to be a Head Coach he needs to pad his resume and the present coordinator is 29
Sometimes A Coordinator job can be very enticing-especially if he is a good friend of Morris
Plus he could recruit in DFW where he would be coaching



They could give him the title and some game-planning responsibilities though Spavital would obviously keep calling the plays. He had a similar arrangement in 2011 at Kansas. His current boss Kevin Sumlin was able to use a similar arrangement at Oklahoma to get a HC job. Really depends on how much Beaty wants to call plays and if Morris would be willing to relinquish those duties because Morris has always called plays himself.