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JoeKidd wrote:Great article about our very own HCCM. Can't wait to see where he can lead our program to.

Also found the winning numbers of the previous Coaches interesting. Say what you want about Jones, but still has the best winning % and the only bowl games/wins. Also interesting to see that each coach had a better winning percentage up until Bennet took us back to the dark ages:

Gregg-13.6%
Rossley-23.8%
Cavan-39.2%
Bennet-25.7%
Jones-40.4%

If you include the rest of 2014 (June's fault) June's % drops to 36.6%

JoeKidd wrote:
Gregg-13.6%
Rossley-23.8%
Cavan-39.2%
Bennet-25.7%
Jones-40.4%

I think you are about to get raked over the coals with lots of exceptions mentioned. I will start it off:

Gregg and Rossley were competing in the SWC in a post-death penalty era.

Enter Cavan and the WAC. The move to lower competition helped. Does your % include or exclude the 1998 season?

Bennett struggled in the WAC plain and simple. You would think the move to CUSA would have helped. It actually did. Bennett lost a ridiculous amount of games by very narrow margins. There had to have been ten games lost by a single touchdown. I bet a dozen total were by 10 points or less.

And don't forget the whole lack of institutional commitment to do anything resembling competing from 1989 - 2008. Saved Stallion about 3:00 minutes of billable time.

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June never went to a bowl game in the AAC. I think HCcM will do what June was not able to do. Not this year but HCCM has some recruits coming that are higher quality players than June recruited. In fact, I don't believe June would have even gone after most of the recruits in this 2016 class because a lot have P5 offers. And June would not have gotten KT or Castille amongst others in the 2015 class.

JoeKidd wrote:Great article about our very own HCCM. Can't wait to see where he can lead our program to.

Also found the winning numbers of the previous Coaches interesting. Say what you want about Jones, but still has the best winning % and the only bowl games/wins. Also interesting to see that each coach had a better winning percentage up until Bennet took us back to the dark ages:

Gregg-13.6%
Rossley-23.8%
Cavan-39.2%
Bennet-25.7%
Jones-40.4%

So does Jones' percentage include last years 1-11 team record? He may have quit, but it was his team.

To be fair, you should only include the middle 3 years of a coach's tenure. Record the first year or two is more about the last coach's recruiting, and thr last few years arw more about how motivated the school is to buy out the contract each year.

I want to note once again that June had more wins because he was a better game day coach than Bennett. However until Garrett Gilbert came June's offense wasn't as productive as Rusty Burns' and the difference in performance was driven by defense.

couch 'em wrote:To be fair, you should only include the middle 3 years of a coach's tenure. Record the first year or two is more about the last coach's recruiting, and thr last few years arw more about how motivated the school is to buy out the contract each year.

I want to note once again that June had more wins because he was a better game day coach than Bennett. However until Garrett Gilbert came June's offense wasn't as productive as Rusty Burns' and the difference in performance was driven by defense.

June Jones is a bether game day coach when he gives a Damn. Maybe my relative youth may be the issue, but I can't think of many examples of coaches who were that willing to go out and get their [deleted] kicked like he was.

PK wrote:

JoeKidd wrote:Great article about our very own HCCM. Can't wait to see where he can lead our program to.

Also found the winning numbers of the previous Coaches interesting. Say what you want about Jones, but still has the best winning % and the only bowl games/wins. Also interesting to see that each coach had a better winning percentage up until Bennet took us back to the dark ages:

Gregg-13.6%
Rossley-23.8%
Cavan-39.2%
Bennet-25.7%
Jones-40.4%

So does Jones' percentage include last years 1-11 team record? He may have quit, but it was his team.

I replied to that post. If you include the rest of 2014 (June's fault) June's % drops to 36.6%

When you're getting paid $2M a year getting your [deleted] kicked doesn't hurt quite so much.

vielsiehorsepower wrote:

couch 'em wrote:To be fair, you should only include the middle 3 years of a coach's tenure. Record the first year or two is more about the last coach's recruiting, and thr last few years arw more about how motivated the school is to buy out the contract each year.

I want to note once again that June had more wins because he was a better game day coach than Bennett. However until Garrett Gilbert came June's offense wasn't as productive as Rusty Burns' and the difference in performance was driven by defense.

June Jones is a bether game day coach when he gives a Damn. Maybe my relative youth may be the issue, but I can't think of many examples of coaches who were that willing to go out and get their [deleted] kicked like he was.

#neverforgettulane2012

So Mike Cavan remains the reigning Champ because June Jones earned that 1-11

Stallion wrote:So Mike Cavan remains the reigning Champ because June Jones earned that 1-11

Yep. Get on the Cavan Caravan.

Yup. That's a really good article about HCCM.
Can't wait for Sept. 4.

malonish wrote:

JoeKidd wrote:Great article about our very own HCCM. Can't wait to see where he can lead our program to.

Also found the winning numbers of the previous Coaches interesting. Say what you want about Jones, but still has the best winning % and the only bowl games/wins. Also interesting to see that each coach had a better winning percentage up until Bennet took us back to the dark ages:

Gregg-13.6%
Rossley-23.8%
Cavan-39.2%
Bennet-25.7%
Jones-40.4%

If you include the rest of 2014 (June's fault) June's % drops to 36.6%

You are a good hearted fellow but what you don't realize is that Gregg and Rossley performed greater miracles against SWC teams and Arkansas. We beat Arkansas at Little Rock with Gregg's seniors from the death penalty come back. We beat Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl. We played the Aggies to a tie in the Alamo Dome in San Antonio. We lost by one at the goal line at UCLA in '93.

Rossley was a talented coach, who played with his hands tied. We've heard this before but I have great respect for Gregg and Rossley. None for Jones, because he was and remains a traitor. His victories, like Benedict Arnold, are overshadowed by his overtures to ASU and his sellout.

I'd take Gregg and Rossley any day over the Tiki charlatan. But now we are fortunate. We have Chad.