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Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:10 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
Thanks Rebel for taking the time to put that data together. Makes me feel even worse for poor Chad.

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:40 pm
by StallionsModelT
Majority of this roster wouldn't warrant a scholarship in the Lone Star Conference. Chad needs two more fully cycles before we will develop any kind of significant depth.

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:37 pm
by Rebel10
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:Thanks Rebel for taking the time to put that data together. Makes me feel even worse for poor Chad.

Credit goes to Blackputpny, I just reposted it.

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:40 pm
by blackoutpony
Rebel10 wrote:
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:Thanks Rebel for taking the time to put that data together. Makes me feel even worse for poor Chad.

Credit goes to Blackputpny, I just reposted it.


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Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:52 pm
by Rebel10
Next couple of classes should bring good help.

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:15 am
by Rebel10
My question is how much turnover in the roster are we going to see next year?

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:50 am
by RGV Pony
Rebel10 wrote:My question is how much turnover in the roster are we going to see next year?

Depends on how much room A&M commerce and Tarleton have

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:52 am
by PonyKai
RGV Pony wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:My question is how much turnover in the roster are we going to see next year?

Depends on how much room A&M commerce and Tarleton have


Zing. Wonder if EWU needs another QB for their spring ball?

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:02 am
by CalallenStang
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:My question is how much turnover in the roster are we going to see next year?

Depends on how much room A&M commerce and Tarleton have


Zing. Wonder if EWU needs another QB for their spring ball?


I wonder if footballdad reads their board.

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:45 pm
by ghost
Interesting but just how accurate are the rivals and other scouting services, especially when you get past the very top recruits? The schools/coaches don't make an announcement on who they have offered. The athletes don't make an announcement on who has offered them...except for the egomaniacs and/or their parents and so many of them are ,shall we say, exaggerating their offers.. So who is getting the information? Is it an internet reporter? So if a recruit who has been offered by UTEP tells an internet reporter that he has been offered by USC and Notre Dame will it go on his rivals offer list?

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:56 pm
by Stallion
follow any recruit on twitter these days and they are announcing their offers, camps, Coaching visits, unofficial/official visits the minute it happens-all the recruiting services are tracking the players twitter accounts these days then calling and confirming in interviews. I think there is much more information than in the past. The recruiting services have contacts with the coaching staffs-several players who claim false offers have been called out behind log-in screens

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:37 pm
by BennyShillingsworth
The craziest thing to me, looking over that inherited roster, is that 15 of the guys on the team had P5 offers, but 6 of them are no longer on the team for various reasons, and 2 of them are chronically hurt. That leaves 7.

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:46 pm
by Stallion
that's pretty common-recruiting is a 50/50 proposition or less but if you fill the roster up with top recruits you are more likely to succeed. You've got career ending injuries, academics, behavior/conduct issues that affect every program. You get about 125 scholarships every 5 years and you are looking for at least 50 or so that can play in any particular year. The best programs recruit well 4 deep to account for the backwash. Of course, you also have to outrecruit the other teams relative to your schedule. A top 25 recruiting class might get you the 9-10th best class in the SEC

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:49 pm
by Rebel10
BennyShillingsworth wrote:The craziest thing to me, looking over that inherited roster, is that 15 of the guys on the team had P5 offers, but 6 of them are no longer on the team for various reasons, and 2 of them are chronically hurt. That leaves 7.

15 is not a lot anyway and then you take it down to 7 that makes things worse. Good thing HCCM has 15 players in one class that have P5 offers. To have just 15 guys on a team of 85 scholarship players with P5 offers over 5 recruiting classes is just poor recruiting. That's averages out to only 3 recruits per year with P5 offers. Definitely helps explains the depth problem.

Re: 55% of the roster HCCM inherited had no FBS offers

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:54 pm
by Rebel10
Stallion wrote:that's pretty common-recruiting is a 50/50 proposition or less but if you fill the roster up with top recruits you are more likely to succeed. You've got career ending injuries, academics, behavior/conduct issues that affect every program. You get about 125 scholarships every 5 years and you are looking for at least 50 or so that can play in any particular year. The best programs recruit well 4 deep to account for the backwash. Of course, you also have to outrecruit the other teams relative to your schedule. A top 25 recruiting class might get you the 9-10th best class in the SEC


Good point.