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Re: keith frazier
Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:53 pm
by Smulaw90
[quote="sadderbudweiser"]Nothing good happens on the road at 3 a.m. unless you are heading in to make the donuts.[/quote
Added to my future sayings....
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:32 pm
by mustang1992
Pony_Law wrote:He is a living breathing example of a failed school system and how people get marginalized. He blew his chance to get out of the cycle and that's on him but it's still just a sad state of affairs.
From start to finish, Keith was and is responsible for his own actions.
As I am typing this I am listening to the story about Jamari Traylor from Kansas. That is a kid who has made the most of the opportunities that were presented to him.
Whatever happens to Keith will be a result of the choices he made, not the "school system."
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:57 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
mustang1992 wrote:Whatever happens to Keith will be a result of the choices he made, not the "school system."
"Denton police receive a call for a disturbance at a local bar.The Denton police were called at 1:45 a.m. to respond to a fight at the Tavern, 121 Avenue A. The UNT police responded, determined Frazier caused the disturbance and detained him"This young man appears to be lost.
Somebody needs to do an intervention soon.
I hope he can grow up or it will not be a pretty picture 10 years down the road.
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:04 pm
by RGV Pony
so where's the news article talking about how Tony Benford failed Keith, resulting in Keith causing the disturbance?
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:29 pm
by PonyKai
RGV Pony wrote:so where's the news article talking about how Tony Benford failed Keith, resulting in Keith causing the disturbance?
Whoah whoah whoah we have a narrative to sell here buddy.
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:35 pm
by smupony94
RGV Pony wrote:so where's the news article talking about how Tony Benford failed Keith, resulting in Keith causing the disturbance?
where is the article about Benford hiring Keith's coach to get Keith to UNT
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:59 pm
by smusportspage
Wait...UNT hired Larry Brown? Why does Keith have another coach?
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:06 pm
by smupony94
smusportspage wrote:Wait...UNT hired Larry Brown? Why does Keith have another coach?
coach from high school
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:11 pm
by RGV Pony
smupony94 wrote:RGV Pony wrote:so where's the news article talking about how Tony Benford failed Keith, resulting in Keith causing the disturbance?
where is the article about Benford hiring Keith's coach to get Keith to UNT
Someone give Forde and the NYT guy a shout out
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:57 pm
by PonyPlayer4
I'm still amazed that a basketball player that can't dribble was a McDonald's All-American.
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:38 pm
by PoconoPony
PonyPlayer4 wrote:I'm still amazed that a basketball player that can't dribble was a McDonald's All-American.
Please add: play defense, basketball IQ, team player, O and D concepts and leadership as missing elements. This leaves us with gunner as his only attribute and successful gunner that only happened in 3 games in his SMU career.
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:42 pm
by LA_Mustang
Glad we are letting it go....
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:56 pm
by gostangs
This victim narrative is getting old. Keith did what was best for him and missed an opportunity to change his life. Still has a shot, but I'll take the under. Probably not much chance based on his family situation.
SMU took a chance on an academic risk, because we needed to at the time. We thought we could skate through it and didn't quite get there.
Both used the other.
And by the way, he ended up being one of our better defensive players. I'll think he'll do fine at UNT, but will derail somewhere along the way
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:00 am
by smusportspage
smupony94 wrote:smusportspage wrote:Wait...UNT hired Larry Brown? Why does Keith have another coach?
coach from high school
Yea I know, but it still begs the question....why does he continue to listen to that guy when he had Coach Brown? Shows a real lack of judgment and is really disappointing. Reminds me of the old saying, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."
Re: keith frazier
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:51 am
by No Quarter
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/sport ... .html?_r=0I can't disagree with very much in the NYT piece. I agree that at some point KF should have listened to Coach Brown rather than others. I also believe that, in the abstract, KF was responsible for his actions, but in real terms the lure of the promises of "the system" is too much to overcome for a lot of kids.
I do wish KF the best and hope he can get past his present situation.