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First game I have seen that made me believe he will be a good player for us. Hustle, effort, offense rebounds, steals. I wish he could score some but everything else seemed to be there.

Bigotry of low expectations in this thread.

skyscraper wrote:He is a ghost and looks scared every time he shoots. Rebounding is not enough.

Sure it’s not enough on the road, with only 7 scholarship players but that wasn’t the question. Does he have great length for a guard? Yes. Is he athletic with good hops? Yes. Does he have an obvious flae in his shooting form? No. Does he have everything that can be molded into a heck of a college player? Absolutely.

He is a freshman, he will make a big jump year to year.

Pony_Law wrote:

skyscraper wrote:He is a ghost and looks scared every time he shoots. Rebounding is not enough.

Sure it’s not enough on the road, with only 7 scholarship players but that wasn’t the question. Does he have great length for a guard? Yes. Is he athletic with good hops? Yes. Does he have an obvious flae in his shooting form? No. Does he have everything that can be molded into a heck of a college player? Absolutely.

He is a freshman, he will make a big jump year to year.

I agree. So frustrating him missing those layups, but he just is rushing everything too much because the game is too fast for him and he doesn't have the confidence at a freshman. That happens for some freshman. But he continued to hustle and had like 5 or 6 O rebounds and several tipped balls. Played good D. He does all the little stuff well even when he can't score. He has a pretty jump shot (if you watch it and look at FT%). Scoring will come see Gu. I remember everyone wanted Gu gone after last year and "the little things" weren't enough and everyone always said he had a good shot, but just wasn't clicking.. It takes some guys more time than others, but as Pony Law said he has the tools which is key.

I like the minutes we got out of both Douglas and Landrum tonight much better than the ones out we got out of Chargois.

PonyLawExpress wrote:

Pony_Law wrote:

skyscraper wrote:He is a ghost and looks scared every time he shoots. Rebounding is not enough.

Sure it’s not enough on the road, with only 7 scholarship players but that wasn’t the question. Does he have great length for a guard? Yes. Is he athletic with good hops? Yes. Does he have an obvious flae in his shooting form? No. Does he have everything that can be molded into a heck of a college player? Absolutely.

He is a freshman, he will make a big jump year to year.

I agree. So frustrating him missing those layups, but he just is rushing everything too much because the game is too fast for him and he doesn't have the confidence at a freshman. That happens for some freshman. But he continued to hustle and had like 5 or 6 O rebounds and several tipped balls. Played good D. He does all the little stuff well even when he can't score. He has a pretty jump shot (if you watch it and look at FT%). Scoring will come see Gu.

I like the minutes we got out of both Douglas and Landrum tonight much better than the ones out we got out of Chargois.

Chargois played??

Shake and Foster came in as freshman and contributed. You didn't have to parse the second page of the stat sheet to produce numbers inferring they could be good.
I hope Douglas and the others develop, but we're in the final month of the season and it's still real rough looking.

I’m not a football guy but I once heard Bill Parcels say you can’t teach the fight in the dog. I’m not sure Douglas has that fight. He has all the measurables, but show us something.

LA_Mustang wrote:I’m not a football guy but I once heard Bill Parcels say you can’t teach the fight in the dog. I’m not sure Douglas has that fight. He has all the measurables, but show us something.

Um those offensive rebounds and scrappy d is fight.

He did show fight! He had 6 rebounds and 3 assists. He just couldn’t score to save his life.

LA_Mustang wrote:I’m not a football guy but I once heard Bill Parcels say you can’t teach the fight in the dog. I’m not sure Douglas has that fight. He has all the measurables, but show us something.

Were we watching the same game? I thought he showed tremendous fight. If anything, he's a little too keyed up. Great D and rebounding; was a real nuisance for Tulsa but just can't buy a bucket right now. I will be surprised if he doesn't make the biggest improvement between his FR and SO seasons.

skyscraper wrote:Shake and Foster came in as freshman and contributed. You didn't have to parse the second page of the stat sheet to produce numbers inferring they could be good.
I hope Douglas and the others develop, but we're in the final month of the season and it's still real rough looking.

Yea LB is probably the best person on the planet at teaching the x and o’s of basketball. Of course I’d expect freshman to show more quickly under Larry than Jank. Also jerrey and shake especially were Taylor made to thrive in LB system.

Then maybe I’m off. If 0-6 from the field and disappearing completely on the offensive end when this team desperately needs you is what a top 100 prospect is, my bad. He can rebound and defend. Never disputed that.

LA_Mustang wrote:Then maybe I’m off. If 0-6 from the field and disappearing completely on the offensive end when this team desperately needs you is what a top 100 prospect is, my bad. He can rebound and defend. Never disputed that.

I thought you were suggesting he had no "fight" in him. Effort is not his problem, but yes, shooting CLEARLY is.

LA_Mustang wrote:I’m not a football guy but I once heard Bill Parcels say you can’t teach the fight in the dog. I’m not sure Douglas has that fight. He has all the measurables, but show us something.

Douglas had tons of fight tonight. Takes alot of fight to be unable to score and hustle like that. It is easy to hustle when the ball is going in.

I think he means more if I dog is going to bite you he is going to bite you when he is a pup. Meaning if he is legit he will show you when he is a young guy or at least flashes. I 100% agree with this saying, but I think there are exceptions and Douglas with his work ethic, size, tools and skill-set could very well be an exception. If he is playing like this next year you need to cut bait, but some kids need adjustment time and he might be one of them.

he doesn't have shooting form problem either-his problem is confidence. Watch him in pregame-he has perfect form-its between the ears