ponyboy wrote:Wow, tough responses. IΓÇÖm shocked by the vitriol here. Former players deserve better. If Dickerson, James, and Armstrong say thereΓÇÖs a problem, you listen. And you fix it. End of story.
What have Dickerson and James given back to us? Seriously.
James was in Dallas Saturday night, why wasnΓÇÖt he at the game or hell any game in last 30 years?
Tons of former players at the Tulsa game that had a blast. Those are who I support.
I think that the AD should call Armstrong and apologize. It's Sonny's sideline and I think that he should be the last word on any sideline passes. Surely if we have some unsold visitors tickets in the stands there would be no harm in passing some of them out to a former All-American. It is great pub to have Dickerson anywhere near the program when the national network cameras are on. As far as James is concerned, I think I remember seeing him at the Armed Forces Bowl. I sit behind the glass at the games and I'm sure that he was in the stadium club at least once or twice last year. It never hurts having someone like him hanging out among the big cigar donors as long as he isn't being political.
This is BS. Boo hoo. IΓÇÖm on the LettermensΓÇÖs board and I work closely with Ramon on getting guys back on campus. There is no one saying we donΓÇÖt want the guys from this era back. I know and talk to a lot of them. Every letterman (if you pay your dues $65) gets two tickets to every home game. Add to that the NCAA has added extra restrictions to who and how many people can be on the sidelines during the game. Since the DP there have been a ton of Mustangs that have competed at a high level and contributed to the this program. Are we supposed to give them all side line passes. I go to every home game and sit in the end zone with my kids. I played my [deleted] off for this school and have never once bitched that I didnΓÇÖt get special treatment. If you want SMU to care about you then how about caring for SMU. Show up when we arenΓÇÖt winning. Show up to a terrible non-conference game. DonΓÇÖt all of a sudden appear when we are 6-0 and expect the red carpet to just be rolled out. I know another Pony Express team member that goes to all the games, stays involved, and has never once bitched about tickets.
35straight wrote:This is BS. Boo hoo. IΓÇÖm on the LettermensΓÇÖs board and I work closely with Ramon on getting guys back on campus. There is no one saying we donΓÇÖt want the guys from this era back. I know and talk to a lot of them. Every letterman (if you pay your dues $65) gets two tickets to every home game. Add to that the NCAA has added extra restrictions to who and how many people can be on the sidelines during the game. Since the DP there have been a ton of Mustangs that have competed at a high level and contributed to the this program. Are we supposed to give them all side line passes. I go to every home game and sit in the end zone with my kids. I played my [deleted] off for this school and have never once bitched that I didnΓÇÖt get special treatment. If you want SMU to care about you then how about caring for SMU. Show up when we arenΓÇÖt winning. Show up to a terrible non-conference game. DonΓÇÖt all of a sudden appear when we are 6-0 and expect the red carpet to just be rolled out. I know another Pony Express team member that goes to all the games, stays involved, and has never once bitched about tickets.
I was at the USF game. The sidelines were not crowded. On the other hand at half time I was in the shade of the concourse (brutally hot day) and a man and his family came up and asked to share our standing table. Turns out he was a former player from the Pony Express era. He was sitting in the stands just like us mortals. I didn't ask but he did not appear bitter he wasn't standing on the field. I wonder how much the story was "spun" and how selective the quotes were.
ponyboy wrote:Wow, tough responses. IΓÇÖm shocked by the vitriol here. Former players deserve better. If Dickerson, James, and Armstrong say thereΓÇÖs a problem, you listen. And you fix it. End of story.
What have Dickerson and James given back to us? Seriously.
James was in Dallas Saturday night, why wasnΓÇÖt he at the game or hell any game in last 30 years?
Tons of former players at the Tulsa game that had a blast. Those are who I support.
I think that the AD should call Armstrong and apologize. It's Sonny's sideline and I think that he should be the last word on any sideline passes. Surely if we have some unsold visitors tickets in the stands there would be no harm in passing some of them out to a former All-American. It is great pub to have Dickerson anywhere near the program when the national network cameras are on. As far as James is concerned, I think I remember seeing him at the Armed Forces Bowl. I sit behind the glass at the games and I'm sure that he was in the stadium club at least once or twice last year. It never hurts having someone like him hanging out among the big cigar donors as long as he isn't being political.
As long as he isnΓÇÖt being political?? Good grief. Why single him out for that?
ponyboy wrote:Wow, tough responses. IΓÇÖm shocked by the vitriol here. Former players deserve better. If Dickerson, James, and Armstrong say thereΓÇÖs a problem, you listen. And you fix it. End of story.
Dickerson wants a private plane and a check to come back
35straight wrote:This is BS. Boo hoo. IΓÇÖm on the LettermensΓÇÖs board and I work closely with Ramon on getting guys back on campus. There is no one saying we donΓÇÖt want the guys from this era back. I know and talk to a lot of them. Every letterman (if you pay your dues $65) gets two tickets to every home game. Add to that the NCAA has added extra restrictions to who and how many people can be on the sidelines during the game. Since the DP there have been a ton of Mustangs that have competed at a high level and contributed to the this program. Are we supposed to give them all side line passes. I go to every home game and sit in the end zone with my kids. I played my [deleted] off for this school and have never once bitched that I didnΓÇÖt get special treatment. If you want SMU to care about you then how about caring for SMU. Show up when we arenΓÇÖt winning. Show up to a terrible non-conference game. DonΓÇÖt all of a sudden appear when we are 6-0 and expect the red carpet to just be rolled out. I know another Pony Express team member that goes to all the games, stays involved, and has never once bitched about tickets.
Stupid android. I swear iphone has a leg up on android in this regard. I wrote my message but it put it in the original posts paragraph. Or I was trying to frame someone. Hehehe
Dickerson comes back when he can. He is most gracious with the SMU fans on the Blvd. Want a pic, he accommodates. He always talks well of SMU. I have never witness him being anything other than a great SMU fan and teammate.
There are many players from the Mustang Mania and Pony Express era that have supported the Mustangs by showing up every game.
Most former players are not the marquee guys. I do think we should accommodate marquee players. They look great on TV on the sideline. Same is true for other well-known SMU alums. Katie Bates, Jack Ingram, The Knuckleheads to name a few.
I agree we should try to accommodate all SMU greats. However, there are limits. How many former greats at 4 passes a game can the sideline handle? NCAA limits that number. Could we honor them at halftime? Well, we already have. We have honored the Mustang Mania era teams, Holiday Bowl team, and the National Champs. And we have honored other SMU teams like the first team back form the DP.
There is a balancing act and I'm not the one to make the judgment as I have next to no knowledge of the situation or familiar with the regulations. But we might consider putting together policies so in the future we have some guidance.
First Off - I never got in a game - I was a Practice Squad player that mimicked the other team each week. I have a broken thumb from M. Carter to show for that.
Like most Big Media, I think this story has a directed narrative to push. Question - were the other three people for sideline passes Mustang players? Where they known people to SMU? And why was that question not asked.
There are a ton old players at games. And most come with the Letterman freebies. This article is like a play to me. It's done so on to the next play and get better.
Hugs and high fives to all the older players and the really old players Mark.
ponyboy wrote:Wow, tough responses. IΓÇÖm shocked by the vitriol here. Former players deserve better. If Dickerson, James, and Armstrong say thereΓÇÖs a problem, you listen. And you fix it. End of story.
I agree. In the last 40 years how many high profile players have we had?
Eric Dickerson Craig James Emmanuel Sanders Courtland Sutton ...maybe some of our other current NFL players?
BUS wrote:First Off - I never got in a game - I was a Practice Squad player that mimicked the other team each week. I have a broken thumb from M. Carter to show for that.
Like most Big Media, I think this story has a directed narrative to push. Question - were the other three people for sideline passes Mustang players? Where they known people to SMU? And why was that question not asked.
There are a ton old players at games. And most come with the Letterman freebies. This article is like a play to me. It's done so on to the next play and get better.
Hugs and high fives to all the older players and the really old players Mark.
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