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Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:15 pm
by gostangs
shadowman wrote:This story is gaining legs and is a pretty big deal nationally now. Many frog fans do not see Patterson surviving this, I think he will have to be removed. This a recruiting killer for TCU and they stand to lose millions over this in many different areas.
Bottom line, he is going to have to go, at this point it does not matter whether anyone thinks he was right or wrong.
Doubling down on ridiculous! Look i cant stand Patterson but if he used this word to admonish someone against using the word, than that is completely defendable. Let’s be adults and not be so sensitive we cant function.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:33 pm
by Oldmins
shadowman wrote:This story is gaining legs and is a pretty big deal nationally now. Many frog fans do not see Patterson surviving this, I think he will have to be removed. This a recruiting killer for TCU and they stand to lose millions over this in many different areas.
Bottom line, he is going to have to go, at this point it does not matter whether anyone thinks he was right or wrong.
Sound the trumpets! Dumbest post every submitted, new winner. Good work, Shadowman!
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:35 pm
by 35straight
Oldmins wrote:shadowman wrote:This story is gaining legs and is a pretty big deal nationally now. Many frog fans do not see Patterson surviving this, I think he will have to be removed. This a recruiting killer for TCU and they stand to lose millions over this in many different areas.
Bottom line, he is going to have to go, at this point it does not matter whether anyone thinks he was right or wrong.
Sound the trumpets! Dumbest post every submitted, new winner. Good work, Shadowman!
I'm no Patterson fan, but this isn't even close to the dumbest post submitted. Stick around.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:34 am
by malonish
If you tell someone not to use it, you probably shouldn't use it in full during your admonishment.
Just rhyme with inward instead of Twitter.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:56 pm
by EastStang
Let's take this to its ridiculous extreme. Fatterson: " Don't use that word in our facilities". Player, "What word?", Fatterson: You know, the word we can't say. Player. What word can't we say. Fatterson. The n word. Player: Noise? Fatterson: No, you can't say N......" Player: Coach used the N word.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:35 pm
by ponyboy
Argument from authority. Logic 101. Please try again.
Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:06 pm
by geezerdonk
The episode provides an excellent opportunity for sanctimonious self appointed virtue arbiters to: (a) tell everybody what they can say, when they can say it and who they can say it to and (b) proclaim their own righteous moral superiority.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:13 pm
by ponyboy
By nature, we're all looking to self-validate.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:00 am
by malonish
ponyboy wrote:By nature, we're all looking to self-validate.
I frequently self validate.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:54 pm
by ponyboy
That's not legal in seven states.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:15 pm
by peruna81
This whole episode with GP reminds me of an interview with Mel Brooks regarding his film and directing career...he stated that he would not be able to make several of his movies now, most notably Blazing Saddles because of a word that studios won't allow...hmmm. I seem to recall several instances where "that" word has been used in the most degrading and profane manner in recent films.
Interesting times we live in nowadays...
GP survives this...and towel girls in Ft Worth groan for another 4 years.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:47 am
by Dukie
ponyboy wrote:Argument from authority. Logic 101. Please try again.
Mac Engel is the biggest TCU apologist on the planet. It is relevant when he admits that something at TCU is a problem. Kevin Sherrington's column cites the best recent take on white people and the N word, John McWhorter's piece in the Atlantic. Sherrington's is a smart take, and is nuanced, and still concludes that white people should not use the N word. Whatever level of authority Sherrington has on this topic, it is certainly more than you and the others aligned with you. Fatterson himself is certainly relevant.
So, thanks for your criticism. I find it unpersuasive.
I think the real question is why you and the other apologists in this thread are so determined to defend the "right" of an old white dude who is responsible for coaching dozens of Black players to use the N word. It was stupid of him to do it. It was possible to deliver his educational message without repeating the word. I'm thrilled this is a black eye for TCU. And I definitely hope that neither Jerry LeVias nor current SMU Black recruits ever read your comments in this thread.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:47 am
by gostangs
Dukie wrote:ponyboy wrote:Argument from authority. Logic 101. Please try again.
Mac Engel is the biggest TCU apologist on the planet. It is relevant when he admits that something at TCU is a problem. Kevin Sherrington's column cites the best recent take on white people and the N word, John McWhorter's piece in the Atlantic. Sherrington's is a smart take, and is nuanced, and still concludes that white people should not use the N word. Whatever level of authority Sherrington has on this topic, it is certainly more than you and the others aligned with you. Fatterson himself is certainly relevant.
Nothing is absolute and facts and context matter - that is true regardless of age or race. Your inability to understand that destroys whatever unpersuasive over emotional position you are trying to make. Patterson is an arrogant turd by all accounts. But he does not deserve this level of criticism for saying a word in the context of asking his players not to say the word. Try get outside your ΓÇ£AtlanticΓÇ¥ inspired PC world to understand context.
So, thanks for your criticism. I find it unpersuasive.
I think the real question is why you and the other apologists in this thread are so determined to defend the "right" of an old white dude who is responsible for coaching dozens of Black players to use the N word. It was stupid of him to do it. It was possible to deliver his educational message without repeating the word. I'm thrilled this is a black eye for TCU. And I definitely hope that neither Jerry LeVias nor current SMU Black recruits ever read your comments in this thread.
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:37 pm
by ponyboy
Dukie wrote:I definitely hope that neither Jerry LeVias nor current SMU Black recruits ever read your comments in this thread.
Wait, what? My only comment on this thread is that the "n word" is never appropriate for anyone to use, white or black or green or purple. Are you telling me that that is offensive?
Re: Former TCU DB alleges Patterson used racial slur
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:25 pm
by Dukie
ponyboy wrote:Dukie wrote:I definitely hope that neither Jerry LeVias nor current SMU Black recruits ever read your comments in this thread.
Wait, what? My only comment on this thread is that the "n word" is never appropriate for anyone to use, white or black or green or purple. Are you telling me that that is offensive?
Oh, your post snidely criticizing mine was not meant as substantive criticism, merely sophistic musing? OK then.