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Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:45 pm
by geno
smitty329 wrote:I love this board. Finally make a bowl game, don't like the bowl options or opponents.
If we made a P5 conference, we wouldn't like the conference or teams.
If we made the playoff, we wouldn't like where we were seeded/opponent.
If we won the national championship, we wouldn't like the trophy, how it was presented, and the number of students that attended the game.
I love this post.
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:52 pm
by gostangs
ojaipony wrote:I don't get the hate about the Hawaii Bowl, other than some of you losers can't make it bc it's too far.

Xmas eve, prime time and it's Hawaii! I think it's a great bowl to play in for our players.
Whatever it is, you gotta win it!
Is it that hard to understand? Some of us have followed this team without much reward for 30 plus years. In that span there were four bowl games - 2 were impossible for anyone with a family (Hawaii), one was great (Birmingham) and one was in our own damn stadium.
So yeah, I hate the idea of the Hawaii bowl and would prefer any others, because I selfishly want to actually attend our bowl game. Is that so bad?
By the way - if its Hawaii I am glad we are going there over nothing and I love Chad Morris - how's that?
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:55 pm
by One Trick Pony
Practicing the hula hoop right now
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:37 pm
by Blunt Pony
Players pulling for Hawaii bowl and admin pulling for Frisco.
Will lose a bunch of money going to Hawaii and no I don't think the publicity outweighs the cost. The playoffs have relegated the rest of these bowls to a bigger trash heap then they were already in. Gives the gamblers something to do in December and costs the athletic departments of all these schools dearly.
That and all the stars will sit out to avoid injuring themselves pre-draft. Courtland would be crazy to play in an exhibition like this with millions of dollars on the line...
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:50 pm
by Stallion
No we won't-the AAC pays for travel for all its teams from the top-therefore the AAC has an interest in sending cheapest team travel-wise to all its bowls which are not seeded. SMU/UH would be cheapest to send to Hawaii but also to Frisco etc
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:12 pm
by docabel
I've always heard the same thing as Stallion. Conference pays for the travel. Aren't the schools on the "hook" for a certain number of tickets/seats?
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:14 pm
by peruna81
Normally contracted with the bowl and the school. So yeah, there would be that plus "incidentals" like Louis Vuitton swag...
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:32 pm
by 82Pony
I assume that is a limited budget, i.e. the AAC isn't paying for the band to go to Hawaii.
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:41 pm
by CA Mustang
docabel wrote:Aren't the schools on the "hook" for a certain number of tickets/seats?
Yes, bowls have ticket commitments (which is where schools can lose money)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... s/4242757/peruna81 wrote:Normally contracted with the bowl and the school. So yeah, there would be that plus "incidentals" like Louis Vuitton swag...
Most of the swag comes from the bowls.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Spec ... gifts.aspx82Pony wrote:I assume that is a limited budget, i.e. the AAC isn't paying for the band to go to Hawaii.
The AAC probably sets a number of people it will pay for and it is up to the school to decide who it covers. Beyond the players, coaches and support staff, there is a lot of discretion as to who goes for free vs. who the school pays for.
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:53 pm
by SMU_Alum11
Either way: the conference and schools can save a lot of money not going to the Hawaii bowl...

Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:59 pm
by peruna81
peruna81 wrote:
Normally contracted with the bowl and the school. So yeah, there would be that plus "incidentals" like Louis Vuitton swag...
Most of the swag comes from the bowls.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Spec ... gifts.aspx
Uhh, I was poking fun at UCLA, and their 3 BBall players in China, CA Mustang.
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:06 pm
by CA Mustang
peruna81 wrote:Uhh, I was poking fun at UCLA, and their 3 BBall players in China, CA Mustang.
Then we are lucky all the bowls are in the US!
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:21 am
by Mustangsabu
City of Frisco isn’t going to want SMU in the bowl there, though. Screws the economic impact numbers.
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Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:00 am
by dr rc
The Frisco Bowl will either end up with a MAC opponent or a 5-7 team. The Hawaii Bowl will be one of the better Mountain West schools.
IMO the Frisco has far more risk with little reward. A win against a MAC squad will garner no respect no matter how good the team is. While the MW isn't a P5 their bowl teams are likely going to be regarded more favorably than any 5-7 APR qualifier (best bets are Air Force, Duke, Vanderbilt, Maryland or Georgia Tech) or any non champ MAC team.
Re: Bowl Projections
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:59 am
by peruna81
CA Mustang wrote:peruna81 wrote:Uhh, I was poking fun at UCLA, and their 3 BBall players in China, CA Mustang.
Then we are lucky all the bowls are in the US!
Yup!