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Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:33 pm
by Insane_Pony_Posse
Boston Pony wrote:give it time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KukWz1xQQCwwell it used to be!
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:02 pm
by JasonB
redpony wrote:really amazed and disappointed that sonny hasn't been able to put a staff together by now. I wonder if all of his prospective coaches have turned him down. I realize this is a dead period for recruits however it is not a dead period for contacting h.s. coaches for assistance/recs.
I'm hearing that we have quite the budget for assistant coaches and are going after big names and quality targets. Let it play out. If we don't have hires by the end of next week, then it is time to be concerned.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:02 pm
by geno
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:redpony wrote:this next year and year after crap is really getting old
Amen Brother....same old crapola.
Well we need to give the guy time to get his own players
Well we need to give the guy time to implement his system
Well if we can get the IPF built in a couple of years
Well if can reach out to the Texas HS Coaches and build rapport over time
Well if we can just get a "basket-weaving degree" available
Well if we can just do a marketing pkge to increase fans at games
We need a major reach-out to the students
Well if we can just get an invite to the Big 12
Well if we can just recruit a defense
Well if we can just recruit a QB
Just wait in 2 years we should be fine
I fear I will be wearing Depends full-time (or worse) by the time all these deadlines are ever met.
Hey, Insane, hate to be the one to tell you, but someone walking behind you at the mall last week thought y ou should have been wearing Depends right then. Better check it before you leave home.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:02 pm
by 78pony
JasonB wrote:redpony wrote:really amazed and disappointed that sonny hasn't been able to put a staff together by now. I wonder if all of his prospective coaches have turned him down. I realize this is a dead period for recruits however it is not a dead period for contacting h.s. coaches for assistance/recs.
I'm hearing that we have quite the budget for assistant coaches and are going after big names and quality targets. Let it play out. If we don't have hires by the end of next week, then it is time to be concerned.
Not concerned and quite impressed. Snake oil salesman now doing his thing elsewhere.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:53 am
by No Quarter
Stallion wrote:he said the 3rd year would be "Boom or Bust" and that if SMU didn't make a Bowl in Year 3 then Morris was a failure. You fire Busts and failures.
Going to have to give back all of Doc Hayes SWC Championships and NCAA Tournaments too. Only 1 winning record (7-5) in the SWC in his first 7 years and No NCAA Tournament or Championship until Year 8
A shame someone did not slip this in about five pages ago. Back in the day the word was that Doc Hayes would win the conference if / when he recruited a good big.
Can you say JIM KREBS?
Kind of funny to bring up the BB program then and FB today. Similar to the difference between grapes and grapefruit. Hayes and one assistant pretty much did it all.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:47 am
by redpony
loved the days of Hayes and Prewitt (sp?). Not always champions but always had an exciting team.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:52 pm
by Charleston Pony
Getting back to the original question as to whether the "rise" was real, next year will be very telling. If Chad & Co really did upgrade the talent with these past 3 recruiting classes, then an experienced coach who has shown he can be successful should be able to field a pretty competitive team next year. I have expressed my concerns about the schedule being much more difficult, but if Dykes can lead next year's team to 6 wins, I will be convinced that Morris & Co significantly upgraded the talent on SMU's roster.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:56 pm
by peruna81
Charleston Pony wrote:Getting back to the original question as to whether the "rise" was real, next year will be very telling. If Chad & Co really did upgrade the talent with these past 3 recruiting classes, then an experienced coach who has shown he can be successful should be able to field a pretty competitive team next year. I have expressed my concerns about the schedule being much more difficult, but if Dykes can lead next year's team to 6 wins, I will be convinced that Morris & Co significantly upgraded the talent on SMU's roster.
spot on...
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:01 pm
by Stallion
If this is so perplexing go watch the 2014 SMU season highlights. Maybe this might remind you
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... -eyes-hurt
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:07 pm
by Cadillac
Yeah, I don't get it. How is it even a question that the Talent Improved? I guess folks are looking at the Rankings of the recruiting classes? I loved Chad as a coach and I love what he did here. I wish he'd have hung around, but I don't blame him for leaving, especially if the rumors of acrimony stemming from last year have merit. I'm also excited about Sonny Dukes, especially with Lashley coming in. To me that indicates that Sonny is willing to adapt his offense to fit his players.
-CoS
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Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:13 pm
by SMUer
Chad nuked 2 of his 3 recruiting classes here...the very thing we gave him all the praise for. So weird.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:26 am
by Cadillac
SMUer wrote:Chad nuked 2 of his 3 recruiting classes here...the very thing we gave him all the praise for. So weird.
I'm a bit confused... He had four classes... Which ones did he nuke?
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Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:51 am
by SMUer
YouΓÇÖre correct, he had four cycles, not three; and fumbling the delivery of 2 of his 4 recruiting classes does sound better than 2 of his 3.
Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:02 am
by PonySnob
Charleston Pony wrote:Getting back to the original question as to whether the "rise" was real, next year will be very telling. If Chad & Co really did upgrade the talent with these past 3 recruiting classes, then an experienced coach who has shown he can be successful should be able to field a pretty competitive team next year. I have expressed my concerns about the schedule being much more difficult, but if Dykes can lead next year's team to 6 wins, I will be convinced that Morris & Co significantly upgraded the talent on SMU's roster.
Hard to say that our WR group hasnΓÇÖt been decimated with the players leaving for the NFL as there isnΓÇÖt anything proven behind them. Proche has shown some flashes of potential. Hopefully Honey and others can step up.
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Re: Was The Rise Real?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:44 pm
by footballdad
PonySnob wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:Getting back to the original question as to whether the "rise" was real, next year will be very telling. If Chad & Co really did upgrade the talent with these past 3 recruiting classes, then an experienced coach who has shown he can be successful should be able to field a pretty competitive team next year. I have expressed my concerns about the schedule being much more difficult, but if Dykes can lead next year's team to 6 wins, I will be convinced that Morris & Co significantly upgraded the talent on SMU's roster.
Hard to say that our WR group hasnΓÇÖt been decimated with the players leaving for the NFL as there isnΓÇÖt anything proven behind them. Proche has shown some flashes of potential. Hopefully Honey and others can step up.
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The defensive talent wasn't upgraded at all. The WR group will tell the tale. Sutton was a June guy, Quinn a lucky transfer godsend. All the rest now Morris guys, most highly thought of with multiple P5 offers. Does June or Morris get credit for Proche? He was on board early because of June and Deion, no?