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Concerns raised if PAC-12 Conference doesn't land SDSU and SMU.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sports/pac-1 ... 06127.html

Water Pony wrote:Concerns raised if PAC-12 Conference doesn't land SDSU and SMU.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sports/pac-1 ... 06127.html

Wow! Leverage...

If the Big XII wanted to really mess with PAC TV contract invite SMU and SDSU.

EastStang wrote:If the Big XII wanted to really mess with PAC TV contract invite SMU and SDSU.

As Baylor is want to do, they would absolutely not allow SMU into the Big 12. This has long been a topic here. Any question about the Bear's perfidy can best be viewed through the exit of Texas A&M back in the 2011-2012 timeline. UT threatened all kinds of penalties and actions, and in fact 'ol DeLoss blackballed playing the Aggies throughout the remainder of his tenure as AD. But Baylor decided that legal recourse was there best bet, and spearheaded the legal attempt to derail the Aggie jump to the SEC.

Texas and OU took 10 more years to see the $$$ they missed, and now are late to the party, and the Bears once again tried the same legal shenanigans...but UT has better lawyers, and had their legal ducks in a row.

The Big 12 does NOT want yet another major conference in Texas, and also is needing to fight for their own relevance in the now muddier media market. SMU poses a threat...one they have not had to deal with for a generation and a half...but it may come about within our lifetime.

Big12 could just invite SDSU and if they accept it would screw the Pac12 just as much.

Unlikely this happens "soon". SDSU asking the mountain west for special dispensation
says it all. No way the PAC meets the deadline. PAC is messed up. They are only delaying
because the numbers are not there. Colorado and Arizona may leave if it's a low-ball type
situation. Why should they give their product away?

My 2 cents. Hope I'm wrong.

WFAA Report:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/col ... f65f14a89d

Not sure I buy the premise SMU may have multiple offers. BigXII would want SDSU before SMU, as Baylor and TCU would certainly oppose us.

PAC-12 Long Term Plan beyond Survival, according to Oregon site:

https://fishduck.com/2023/06/could-this ... term-plan/

Houston makes more sense than Tech in that scenario

Water Pony wrote:WFAA Report:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/col ... f65f14a89d

Not sure I buy the premise SMU may have multiple offers. BigXII would want SDSU before SMU, as Baylor and TCU would certainly oppose us.

Yeah, there's an excellent reason SMU has always been passed up for the Big 12. . . well, to be honest there is more than one excellent reason. . . but at least one is that Texas schools only see us as another mouth to feed and/or additional competition in their existing footprint. I suppose the only thing that would possible change that attitude is if it looked like SMU was about to bring another P5 conf into DFW. But even then, I agree that they could gain just as much by offering SDSU.

1983 Cotton Bowl wrote:

Water Pony wrote:WFAA Report:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/sports/col ... f65f14a89d

Not sure I buy the premise SMU may have multiple offers. BigXII would want SDSU before SMU, as Baylor and TCU would certainly oppose us.

Yeah, there's an excellent reason SMU has always been passed up for the Big 12. . . well, to be honest there is more than one excellent reason. . . but at least one is that Texas schools only see us as another mouth to feed and/or additional competition in their existing footprint. I suppose the only thing that would possible change that attitude is if it looked like SMU was about to bring another P5 conf into DFW. But even then, I agree that they could gain just as much by offering SDSU.

I suspect that what SMU is doing in the NIL era has our former SWC mates having recurring nightmares about what we accomplished in the pre-death penalty era. I agree that regardless of what they will admit, that remains quite possibly the # 1 reason they would object to having SMU as a conference mate again. Remember Texas' A.D. saying he would never schedule SMU again...after we started kicking their arses before we crashed and burned.

Headline for Canzano's Columnp osted at 2 p.m. EDT:

Canzano: Money talks -- and SMU is knee-deep in it
San Diego State and SMU poised for Pac-12 entry

Story is behind the paywall, begins with tale of David Miller's supprt

Here is another one:

https://www.si.com/college/stanford/foo ... -to-pac-12

max the wonder dog wrote:Headline for Canzano's Columnp osted at 2 p.m. EDT:

Canzano: Money talks -- and SMU is knee-deep in it
San Diego State and SMU poised for Pac-12 entry

Story is behind the paywall, begins with tale of David Miller's supprt

Canzano: Money talks -- and SMU is knee-deep in it
San Diego State and SMU poised for Pac-12 entry

JOHN CANZANO
JUN 20, 2023
ΓêÖ PAID

SMU plays on a court named for donor David Miller.
David Miller made his fortune in fossil fuels. He founded a Denver-based oil and gas company in the early 1980s. After that, he launched EnCap Investments, one of the countryΓÇÖs leading providers of private equity to the energy industry.

When Pac-12 Conference Commissioner George Kliavkoff made that well-documented visit to Southern Methodist University in February, he watched the Mustangs play on ΓÇ£David B. Miller Court.ΓÇ¥

Miller and his wife, Carolyn, also have their last name on SMUΓÇÖs event center and on the ballroom of the schoolΓÇÖs indoor-training center. A satellite campus in the mountains of New Mexico carries the family name, too. And the Millers made a splash in 2019 when they gave the SMU business school $50 million ΓÇö the largest individual donation in the universityΓÇÖs 112-year history.

Miller played basketball for the Mustangs in the 1970s. He was a center on the team and is now a major donor to the universityΓÇÖs NIL fund ΓÇö ΓÇ£The Boulevard Collective. And he happens to be knee deep in SMUΓÇÖs quest to join the Pac-12