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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:23 pm
by smu diamond m
perunapower wrote:
smu diamond m wrote:
perunapower wrote:
jtstang wrote:
perunapower wrote: There are good coaches out there without the blemishes. We're SMU, we're offering gobs of cash, why do we need to limit ourselves?

Please list the "good coaches without the blemishes."


Mike Shula, Paul Johnson, Turner Gill, Dave Christensen, Steve Mariucci, Glen Mason, Bo Pelini, Major Applewhite, Gus Malzahn, etc.

Now I didn't quite mean without blemish all, I merely meant the blemishes of Barnett and Neuheisel and the like. Like it or not, if we hire a coach with a history of recruiting scandals and NCAA infractions, we will be seen as reverting back to cheating by a majority of the public. That's the albatross that hangs around our neck with the death penalty being mentioned in almost every article about SMU nationally.

Do you even know what happened to Neuheisel? Do you realize that he SUED and WON over what happened to him? That means someone thinks he didn't do anything wrong.
Neuheisel was fired in the summer of 2003 from the University of Washington for participating in a neighborhood pool for the NCAA Basketball Tournament. He first denied the acusation to investigators, and before admitting to it after consultation with school officials. The gambling case became a local sensation when it was revealed that he had received an internal UW memo which authorized gambling in off-campus tournament basketball pools. That fall, the NCAA infractions committee found Neuheisel violated NCAA rules against gambling but didn't sanction him, citing the memo by Washington's former compliance officer that mistakenly authorized this type of gambling. It also became apparent that the NCAA violated its own rules when questioning Neuheisel about the gambling.

OH GOSH THE NCAA EVEN DID SOMETHING WRONG
Legal proceedings enabled Neuheisel to collect a $4.5 million settlement and essentially clear him of wrongdoing as the NCAA and University of Washington were forced to abandon their case.

Now, what's that wrongdoings you were talking about?


Just because he won, doesn't mean he was completely innocent. He still lied to NCAA investigators about his gambling.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2007123

He was hung out to dry by his compliance officer, doing what he was told to do. That's why the lawsuit came about; the compliance officer wrongly authorized participation in off-campus pools...

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:31 pm
by Dwan
he did have numerous recruiting violations at Colorado and at Washington.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:45 pm
by smu diamond m
I actually didnt know that, I had to look it up. I think with a watchful eye, he'd still be an applicable - and winning - coach...

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:01 pm
by Dwan
I wish I felt the same way. We could do worse, but man, he ran two proud, national championship calibur programs into the ground. A good offensive mind, but is evaluation of talent at both Washington and CU were horrible. However, we are not asking him to win a National Title, just go 8-4 in Conference USA.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:29 pm
by Bergermeister
BRStang wrote: It's time to win.

EXACTLY. Do whatever it takes. They'd never give us the death penalty AGAIN... go for it.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:46 pm
by MustangTu
Maybe we should hire OJ he was found not guilty by the courts also.