We are no longer welcome to recruit at Tyler Lee.

Billy Joe · Post by **Billy Joe** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:25 am

Event is a non-issue. Happens all the time. Coaches need to do what is best for SMU football. The kid has ample time to get another scholarship. The fact no other Div. 1-A schools has offered him shows you that he is a major project. I would like to think SMU is done recruiting the 'project' kids.

mathman · Post by **mathman** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:30 am

BRStang wrote:
Top 25 wrote:Again, this has been grossly distorted.

Every committed recruit was told by the Athletic Department, once Bennett was let go, that neither the school nor the player was committed to the other.

This is no surprise.

And as to the timing of the ultimate callback, Owens may want to remember that June Jones only hit the ground last Tuesday, and then was quickly off to Houston.

By the way, when was the last time you saw a high school coach jump up on a soap box when one of his players changed his commitment?

(And, yes, it is true that Bennett repeatedly said that the biggest mistake he made when he came here was honoring Cavan's deathbed commitments.)

Apparently, there are some people pretty upset by this. One supposed father of a recruit that's been offered by SMU is reconsidering...

Posted on other board by win1free: "My son was offered by Coach Jones, but reading about this makes me wonder about the Coach, to put a kid out in the cold makes no sense!!!
SMU took its sweet time in getting a coach and asked the recruits to please hang in there and this is how this young man is rewarded."

Sounds bogus to me. What other board are you referring to? Glad we took our sweet time.

perunapower · Post by **perunapower** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:36 am

The Rivals board.

http://www.mustangmaniacs.com

OC Mustang · Post by **OC Mustang** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:48 am

perunapower wrote:That doesn't surprise me. I can't say I blame the parents and recruits for taking time to look at this report. Any time a coach rescinds a scholarship offer, you have to take the time to learn more about the situation and question his commitment to players.

Some of you were silly to think this would be positive or at least neutral in SMU's recruiting efforts. This likely won't cripple our recruiting, but it definitely away some of the buzz we had going from the hire.

Call me silly, then. Though I certainly don't think it will be viewed as positive (nor is it positive). But neutral? Yeah, I think I am there. A year from now, regardless of whether Jones wins during his first year coaching at SMU, I don't think this issue will matter. If it does, then the standard is being selectively applied.

mathman · Post by **mathman** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:51 am

perunapower wrote:The Rivals board.

http://www.mustangmaniacs.com

Thanks. Just read through the thread and Farrell's response was right on. I was curious about something BRstang said in his post. He said the kid had been offered and was reconsidering. Does that mean he has committed?

perunapower · Post by **perunapower** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:53 am

OC Mustang wrote:
perunapower wrote:That doesn't surprise me. I can't say I blame the parents and recruits for taking time to look at this report. Any time a coach rescinds a scholarship offer, you have to take the time to learn more about the situation and question his commitment to players.

Some of you were silly to think this would be positive or at least neutral in SMU's recruiting efforts. This likely won't cripple our recruiting, but it definitely away some of the buzz we had going from the hire.

Call me silly, then. Though I certainly don't think it will be viewed as positive (nor is it positive). But neutral? Yeah, I think I am there. A year from now, regardless of whether Jones wins during his first year coaching at SMU, I don't think this issue will matter. If it does, then the standard is being selectively applied.

You're right. It won't matter next year. Whatever our record next year will be the biggest difference maker in our recruiting success next year. My point was this will hinder this year's recruiting class. It won't destroy it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it impacts some recruits' decisions.

Bergermeister · Post by **Bergermeister** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:20 pm

perunapower wrote: My point was this will hinder this year's recruiting class.

You can't be serious. It's not a big deal (at all) - except to that kid and his parents. Nobody else cares. Really.

JasonB · Post by **JasonB** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:22 pm

It kind of sucks for the kid, but at the same time, if the needs of the team change based on the new coach, it doesn't help either the player or the coach to bring him in anyway. Either the kid would sit for 4 years or he would end up transferring. In the long run, it will be best for both parties.

This is NOT the same as a coach offering a kid and the same coach dropping him four months later.

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:27 pm

shouldn't the converse also be true? Are Texarkana kids no longer welcome at Michigan? Did Rich Rdz say that's not how they do business in Michigan?

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:33 pm

And if that kid has a fatal stroke during two a days, what would a parent think then about Coach Jones. It sounds like this recruit was not right for Jones system. Better he go somewhere else that he can play and hopefully be put on a diet.

BRStang · Post by **BRStang** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:45 pm

mathman wrote:
perunapower wrote:The Rivals board.

http://www.mustangmaniacs.com

Thanks. Just read through the thread and Farrell's response was right on. I was curious about something BRstang said in his post. He said the kid had been offered and was reconsidering. Does that mean he has committed?

May have been a poor choice of words to say "reconsidering." I don't remember if he has committed or not or if he used that word. But I have to go and I don;t have time to look it up again. All I know is what you now know from having read that thread.

mustangbill67 · Post by **mustangbill67** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:24 pm

Believe the post said the kid had been offered. Do not know if the offer was from Jones or Bennett.

Bergermeister · Post by **Bergermeister** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:06 pm

My personal experience with this involved my next door neighbor who was offered by Ron Meyer when he was at SMU. The boy was also offered by Texas Tech, but SMU was his choice. When signing day came - yes, the actual signing day - SMU said it did not have a scholarship for him. To make an exceedingly long story, short - Texas Tech coaches helped him and "got" him a scholarship to Vanderbilt. He played for Vandy 4 years - got a meaningful degree, and is a successful metroplex businessman. If you're good, things work out.

Top 25 · Post by **Top 25** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:52 pm

Might that have been a running back with the initials L.S.?

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:03 pm

What i find to be the whole travesty is that this has to be the first time in the history of college recruiting that this has happened. Does this mean that other coaches might start doing this too? This could have a far-reaching impact of the overall landscape of recruiting for years to come!