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Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:52 pm
by East Coast Mustang
ponyboy wrote:I cringe to think what those remaining from the Greatest Generation think of us.
My grandfather remarked about ten years ago (shortly before his death) that he was glad he wouldn't have to see what this country would become in the next 10-20 years. He nailed it.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:08 pm
by NavyCrimson
Smart man.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:31 pm
by ponyboy
We need another Reagan.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:13 pm
by mrydel
To paraphrase Quint: We're going to need a bigger vote.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:12 am
by smusic 00
East Coast Mustang wrote:Grant Carter wrote:If the rules allow for a petition to get a vote, it seems like they are following the rules.
Yeah, the rule just seems stupid to me.
Also, the gender-neutral housing thing is beyond nuts. This country is going down the tubes fast
India now recognizes a third gender status.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:53 am
by mrydel
India can say anything. They have their own ink.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:37 am
by Bergermeister
Like somebody important once said: "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:17 am
by RGV Pony
Bergermeister wrote:Like somebody important once said: "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."
Yes, the laureate Aaron Tippin
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:36 am
by Stallion
East Coast Mustang wrote:ponyboy wrote:I cringe to think what those remaining from the Greatest Generation think of us.
My grandfather remarked about ten years ago (shortly before his death) that he was glad he wouldn't have to see what this country would become in the next 10-20 years. He nailed it.
Well my Dad who made landings at Siciliy, Anzio, Salerno, and on D-Day fought for a just society, against prejudice, and for equal rights among all citizens. We are a better country today because of Americans who have fought for those changes. Screw the grandstanding because you support a lost political party that has failed to lead America. Its pathetic
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:41 am
by couch 'em
Nothing in this discussion is a 'rights' issue although you are right that the cultural fight is long lost, at least for the foreseeable future.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:51 am
by ponyboy
Stallion wrote:We are a better country today because of Americans who have fought for those changes.
Some of those changes, absolutely. I revere Martin Luther King for the changes he helped bring to this country -- and the noble way he accomplished those very noble aims via nonviolence and an unwavering reference to the Bible. Homosexuality is an entirely different matter and the liberal attempts to tie the two together, race and sexual preference, are disgusting.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:54 am
by East Coast Mustang
Stallion wrote:East Coast Mustang wrote:ponyboy wrote:I cringe to think what those remaining from the Greatest Generation think of us.
My grandfather remarked about ten years ago (shortly before his death) that he was glad he wouldn't have to see what this country would become in the next 10-20 years. He nailed it.
Well my Dad who made landings at Siciliy, Anzio, Salerno, and on D-Day fought for a just society, against prejudice, and for equal rights among all citizens. We are a better country today because of Americans who have fought for those changes. Screw the grandstanding because you support a lost political party that has failed to lead America. Its pathetic
Oh look, the Texas Tech trial lawyer is all fired up again!
I fail to see how giving LGBT students a "special seat" on the Senate is somehow fighting for a just society against prejudice and equal rights. Same goes for other "special interest" seats. To me, they seem demeaning- it's like saying that LGBT students can't get elected to the other seats so they have to create their own.
I knew a guy when I was at SMU too many years ago that was pretty clearly gay and everyone knew it, but he was well liked anyways because he was friendly, outgoing, a decent person, and didn't act like an [deleted] like virtually everyone else at SMU. he managed to get elected to Student Senate for several years, and he didn't need a special seat to do it. But the outrage industry has apparently spoken, and special seats for LGBT is apparently now mandatory, election results be damned.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:59 am
by Bergermeister
East Coast Mustang wrote:
I fail to see how giving LGBT students a "special seat" on the Senate is somehow fighting for a just society against prejudice and equal rights. "Special interest" seats, to me, seem demeaning- it's like saying that LGBT students can't get elected to the other seats so they have to create their own.
I knew a guy when I was at SMU too many years ago that was pretty clearly gay and everyone knew it, but he was well liked anyways because he was friendly, outgoing, a decent person, and didn't act like an [deleted] like virtually everyone else at SMU. he managed to get elected to Student Senate for several years, and he didn't need a special seat to do it. But the outrage industry has apparently spoken, and special seats for LGBT is apparently now mandatory, election results be damned.
My sentiments exactly.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:17 pm
by PonyKai
Who the hell said anything about "rights"? Please.
Re: SMU student senate
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:26 pm
by NewAgeMustange
I just don't see the need for a special interest seats. Heck not that long ago the student body president would have qualified for this seat, but they didn't pass it then. The issue that gets me is that they seem to believe there is a need for gender-neutral living at SMU. If they can drive a petition for a special interest seat why can't they just drive more petitions for living and "inclusive curriculum". What courses could this possibly entail?