Walk-ups ALWAYS Welcome - Monday Luncheon

[Dutch]

Its NOT funny and you don't know crap.... It's NOT right that we don't have support from brothers, blacks or people of color, or whatever, at fund raising events and not support the football program or SMU will always still be known as a rich white kids school. Lots of kids played at SMU and we all received the benefit of them playing and watching them play and they all also got the benefit of a full scholarship...we have no problem with all all, but to mention it ...is NOT good?.....BS.

Really? Think about it man:

First off, people who have the freedom at the office AND the freedom in personal life to spend 2+ hours driving over, eating, listing, and chit chatting are going to be skewed to an older crowd. Then, consider this event is for hardcore fans. Also a much older crowd. So already you have to look at people who are 40+ years old. People who graduated 20+ years ago.

Now, today, (according to wikipedia, but sounds right) SMU is 21% minority enrollment. If you assume at least 50% of that is asian/indian/arab which I pulled out of my butt based on my experience there, that means only 10% black.

Now, go back 20+ years ago to the day of people in the room. I think it's common knowledge that as you go back in time fewer blacks were going to college, and of those fewer were able to go to a rich private school, and of those that were, were more likely to have encountered prejudice and thus less likely to go to an rich white private school. If you go back into the 60s blacks were negligable.

So, now you have a group of people where the % of black alumni is probably way less than 10% Just for [deleted] let's say 5% average for that age group. Having only a couple or even zero would not be unusual based on those numbers.

that's exactly right, and even if that's all 100% correct, referring to anyone of color as "brothers" is wrong and certainly not a way to endear them to join in.

[Mestengo]

Well what we need is the nappy meal " Under Cover brother "

[smustatesmen]

ponyscott, Based upon researching my family heritage, I have some Cherokee ancestry. If you want to bring me to Dallas, and take me to the "Monday Luncheon", I'll be yo' bro, man. Then lets attend the local Occupy Whatever Protest. And, then go by a grade school who's PTA (O var.) sponsors a Cub Scout Pack/Boy Scout Troup, and protest their anti gay stance combined with their support from a public institution, and yada, yada, yada. I don't want to hate, but God, if your going to be so f_ing PC at least use rational thinking in making a point. This dummying down of our society is a bummer man.

[Mestengo]

Are you bringing fire water?

[Wuba]

Morrison was as entertaining as Mason today. Very in depth description of what goes into the schemes on both sides. An educational one today. But, where was Wuba with the hard hitting question?

I got there late and actually sat right behind you actually. Had to rush back to work so I left during defensive film. Did not have any questions I needed answered, although I am curious how mason came to marry the sister of his former player. Has to be a story there.

[smustatesmen]

Are you bringing fire water?

Mingo, I mean Mestengo, don't make me go all renegade on your behind. My people who were the indigenous inhabitants of this continent (I thought we came over the land bridge in the Bering Sea area, so how we are the indigenous ones is beyond me), but I digress, no longer crave or consume water that makes one feel a fire inside ones beating breast. Now that we own many "gaming" establishments, as a group on the whole, we want the best. This means aged verticals of Chateau Petrus, Armagnacs, and of course Dos XX's. However, if yo' be offering a (red) bro some 'shine, my momma squaw didn't raise no dumb "engine" (PC version),....... skoal white devil. Pinto, Palomino, Roan, Paint, Horsey Up.

This has been a racist response.......brought to you by SMU who tried their damndist to educate one of "those" white elitists who attended the institution, but, obviously failed. Blame the school not the alum.

[cutter]

BS----Just saying and noticing...it is, or was like today, a room full of white, mostly older fans....is there a reason why brothers don't attend or are we not cool?....why don't we have ALL folks at the lunches. It IS a fund raiser by the way. I asked a few others at the table I was sitting at today and there IS a silent question.....no biggie, but there are a lot of people of color that have gone to SMU and we don't see them in proportion to the rest of us. Join us! Is IT wrong to ask? There are thousands of blacks that have gone to SMU through the years and SMU is STILL known as a rich private WHITE school....so why is it wrong to mention this?..its not racist, or is it?

okay, since everyone is giving ponyscott grief, I'll just say that I think this is a reasonable and valid observation and question, however it is worded. he isn't jumping up on a soapbox, but merely posing a question based upon a casual, but striking, observation.
couch 'em's analysis is helpful and seems insightful.

[Mestengo]

Are you bringing fire water?

Mingo, I mean Mestengo, don't make me go all renegade on your behind. My people who were the indigenous inhabitants of this continent (I thought we came over the land bridge in the Bering Sea area, so how we are the indigenous ones is beyond me), but I digress, no longer crave or consume water that makes one feel a fire inside ones beating breast. Now that we own many "gaming" establishments, as a group on the whole, we want the best. This means aged verticals of Chateau Petrus, Armagnacs, and of course Dos XX's. However, if yo' be offering a (red) bro some 'shine, my momma squaw didn't raise no dumb "engine" (PC version),....... skoal white devil. Pinto, Palomino, Roan, Paint, Horsey Up.

This has been a racist response.......brought to you by SMU who tried their damndist to educate one of "those" white elitists who attended the institution, but, obviously failed. Blame the school not the alum.

Agree

[smudubs]

No one is colorblind. If you really believe that you are lying to yourself.

I know Ponyscott well enough to know he did not mean anything derogatory in his use of the word "brother." Also, as the only known African American who has spoken on this issue, I was non no way offended by the statement. Ponyscott asked a question, he did not lace that question with any preconceived, stereotypical statements concerning African Americans.

That being said, I have never been to one of the luncheons. I have no particular reason for this, but it has never been high on my priority list. Personally, I have sat through enough film sessions with coaches and have had enough rubber chicken lunches to not feel the need to shell out more money.

[moanin'matty]

African Americans.

African? How about just Americans? Why do you distinguish? Might as well say Negro. Or Colored. Same thing.

[couch 'em]

I get a headache when I try to think what to call white guys from south africa or mediterranean/arab types from north africa.

[2ndandlong]

this is spiraling out of control. this desperately needs rerailing.

So, how was the food at the buffet? Did he say anything good that you can't repeat on here?

[smudubs]

this is spiraling out of control. this desperately needs rerailing.

So, how was the food at the buffet? Did he say anything good that you can't repeat on here?

Agreed. I was trying to defend someone I know did not mean anything negative by his comment and explain why I don't come to the luncheons. I tried to keep it on topic. But...I have to respond to Moaning Matty's comment. African American is generally considered to be the most politically correct term used to describe American Negroids. Personally I identify myself as American, then Texan, and finally black. When others refer to me I prefer my first name or Mr. Dubs. Or as those closest to me sometimes say "Big Chocolate."

So seriously, how was the food and what was discussed?

[smustatesmen]

Was told the main topic was "Why don't more African-American males come to the Monday Luncheon, and why do they refer to themselves as, Big chocolate, or other nicknames"?

[smustatesmen]

Was told the main topics were: "Why don't more African-American males come to the Monday Luncheon, and why do they refer to themselves as, Big Chocolate, or other such nicknames"?