redpony wrote:ECM- if it's only business let's throw his [deleted] out. We can find new coaches who are less of a whore than he is. BTW- with an avatar of Cain I doubt if you are in much of a position to talk about things 'sexual'. Get real. This is our university you are talking about. He came here with a lot of promises. Some he delivered on and others he didn't. His actions in the last 24 hours have destroyed his credibility. He says he's staying and then he might not be. What is the truth?
Good thing you weren't at LSU in '07- you probably would have wanted Les out when he was rumored to Michigan before the SECCG.
But the grass is always greener on the other side, right? Ask Boston college
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Sure- what ever you say. I realize that some coaches have no loyalty to the universities they work for. Obviously, you feel the same about your employer. Honestly, I could not work for somebody that I did not respect and have some loyalty towards. Yep, in my business career I turned down offers for more money for a number of reasons. One of which was that I felt I had not completed the job that I went there to do. There are people with business ethics and those who are only looking for the next quick buck. Obviously, you and I are at the opposite ends of that spectrum.
redpony wrote:Sure- what ever you say. I realize that some coaches have no loyalty to the universities they work for. Obviously, you feel the same about your employer. Honestly, I could not work for somebody that I did not respect and have some loyalty towards. Yep, in my business career I turned down offers for more money for a number of reasons. One of which was that I felt I had not completed the job that I went there to do. There are people with business ethics and those who are only looking for the next quick buck. Obviously, you and I are at the opposite ends of that spectrum.
GO PONIES!!!
Oh geez, I think I might throw up. The moral supremacy argument that has been thrown around here in the past few days is nauseating. Ya'll are all a bunch of saints, aren't you? Give me a break
Don't act like there's some ethical dilemma involved in taking a job that pays better. That's horse [deleted]. You must think almost every coach in CFB is unethical then, right? Maybe it's not even about the money for June- maybe he wants to be back on the West Coast, and in the Pac-12 against better competition. I don't like it personally, but those are all valid reasons if you're in his shoes. If you believe everything a college football coach says, well, you're fooling yourself. and that extends far beyond JJ. But keep the moral witch hunt up if it eases your pain in the women's room.
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redpony wrote:IPP- after all of the b.s. that has taken place over the last few days and JJ says he is staying and then shoves it to us what will be your reply? This guy has lost all trust.
redpony honestly....after all what BS?
It's called life in the big leagues.
The "BS" in my mind is all the hyped outrage and June demonization by a few sour-grapes on Pony Fans that either dont get it or have an ax to grind because they dont like June Jones.
When you have success people wanna talk to your coach.... happens every season in college football. plus it happens every single day in the workplace too people get a better offer..a better deal...they change jobs...it's reality.
See Todd Graham who left Rice after one season of winning...it happens...its life.
You tell me what coach at SMU's level would slam the door in an Arizona State's face?
You tell me what coach with a freaking empty stadium, at non-BCS school wouldnt at least respond to a BCS school in a major conference?
I think June Jones spoke with Maryland in the past while he was at SMU. Where was the OUTRAGE over that?
If you have pretty girl....people are gonna look....the alternative is get an ugly girl and nobody looks.
If JJ leaves and we have future success...that next SMU coach is going to get offers too. You think Sumlin is not in discussions with a bunch of people too? Sumlin is recruiting right now for Houston as well while he is in dicsussions about jobs elsewhere....or ya think Sumlin is totally out of the loop about his future and just keeps his focus on nothing but recruits for Houston?
As far as JJ saying he is staying....I honestly have not seen him say that...source?
But even if he did...its the same with most jobs..people tell a boss they are staying & committed but if they get an incredible once in a lifetime offer how many people in America turn down the bigger better deal? does that make them "not trustworthy"? not in my opinion....thats just the way the world works
If June Jones leaves...I will not be happy, but will soon just be glad June got us turned around and then get behind the new coach that hopefully continues to keep SMU a winner and reach the goal of being a regular Top 25 Team.
I realize that some coaches have no loyalty to the universities they work for. Obviously, you feel the same about your employer. Honestly, I could not work for somebody that I did not respect and have some loyalty towards. Yep, in my business career I turned down offers for more money for a number of reasons. One of which was that I felt I had not completed the job that I went there to do. There are people with business ethics and those who are only looking for the next quick buck. Obviously, you and I are at the opposite ends of that spectrum.
