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Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:06 pm
by PonySnob
westexSMU wrote:Says his system was proven in the pros to work. Great, except college football doesn't have preseason games and if we are only going to prepare this way, we need a preseason game in effect to start the season.
Did his system really work in the pros? 19-39 as a head coach and 22-young you count the season where he became the interim head coach.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:10 pm
by SmooBoy
I would much rather see the old SWC schoosl play us than McNesse State or Texas A&M Commerce. The next step would be to become competitive in these games. Then maybe we can focus on winning a couple here and there.

Remember that while things look dismal now, A&M is about to get rocked by Florida, and TCU is still smarting from last year's Super Bowl loss. Those upcoming games are not guaranteed losses for the Ponies.

With all that said, please beat SFA.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:18 pm
by Rebel10
Smart thing to do would be schedule 1 or 2 fairly tough BCS games and 2 tune up games. No BCS team plays 12 BCS games in a row like SMU will next year. Unrealistic SMU fans think SMU is better than what they are. A schedule like next year's could get a coach fired if they go 0-4 on OOC and only win half of their conference games. It will show how good or bad SMU has been recruiting as will this year's OOC except for SFA.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:32 pm
by ponyboy
PK wrote:Until we start beating the "big boys"...we are the cupcake. :roll:
Though we sure as hell looked like it on Sunday, we are hardly cupcakes. That's a designation for teams who don't go to three bowls in a row, including manhandling a BCS team the game before last. The problem around here is either we're all world after a win or bottom 10 after a loss.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:38 pm
by Rebel10
ponyboy wrote:
PK wrote:Until we start beating the "big boys"...we are the cupcake. :roll:
Though we sure as hell looked like it on Sunday, we are hardly cupcakes. That's a designation for teams who don't go to three bowls in a row, including manhandling a BCS team the game before last. The problem around here is either we're all world after a win or bottom 10 after a loss.
We manhandled the same 6-7 BCS team that got beat with a full coaching staff by Youngstown St. We will find out if we are a weak team resting on past laurels or a strong team over the next few weeks.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:48 pm
by couch 'em
PonySnob wrote:
westexSMU wrote:Says his system was proven in the pros to work. Great, except college football doesn't have preseason games and if we are only going to prepare this way, we need a preseason game in effect to start the season.
Did his system really work in the pros? 19-39 as a head coach and 22-young you count the season where he became the interim head coach.
Not sure that is a fair assessment. The offense and June did well in many places but usually it was June plating a bit part and Mouse Davis being the mastermind.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:49 pm
by ponyboy
SMU ended up rated #51 by Sagarin last year. Not a cupcake.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:58 pm
by bubba pony
SMU 86 wrote:I asked if anyone can find a BCS team that has 4 bcs team on it's OOC schedule. I guess no one can.


Notre Dame
http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/sche ... sched.html

realize they are not in a conference but the point is they take on strong teams and why? exposure and money.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:59 pm
by Rebel10
ponyboy wrote:SMU ended up rated #51 by Sagarin last year. Not a cupcake.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm

I am not talking about last year. I am talking about this year. As I said we will see if we are a weak team or a strong team that just had a bad first week here pretty soon.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:04 pm
by SMU 86
bubba pony wrote:
SMU 86 wrote:I asked if anyone can find a BCS team that has 4 bcs team on it's OOC schedule. I guess no one can.


Notre Dame
http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/sche ... sched.html
:lol: Good one Bubba Pony. I guess all their games are non conference since they are not in a conference so I guess they should have at least 4 BCS team on it. But I can't find any team that is in a BCS conference scheduling 4 BCS teams for OOC. Like the Baylor guys says, nobody does it except us.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:43 pm
by sbsmith
PK wrote:
ojaipony wrote:
westexSMU wrote:I'll say that if the coach just can't get the team ready to play for our first games, as has been the case for years because they have to prepare only their way which hasn't worked at SMU for a 1st game, we seriously need to just play our 1st game against a Southern U. or whoever Oklahoma State played because most D1 teams would have kicked our [deleted] last Sunday whether they have more talent than us or not. We just have to treat it has a preseason automatic win, then I guess you move forward after the first game and the players have had some game hitting experience like they have been doing.
Agreed. It sounds like this year's schedule was a leftover from PBs days and JJ didn't like it from comments made by both coaches. Most of the "big boys" schedule cupcakes the first couple of weeks. We should do the same IMHO.
Until we start beating the "big boys"...we are the cupcake. :roll: Why do you think they agreed to play us? Think they are sentimental about the old SWC and miss us?


True, start beating some of these teams and they'll be a hell of a lot less likely to keep playing us. Right now we're easy pickings.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:12 pm
by EastStang
Pooh, pooh his coaching all you want, but we have more players in the NFL now than we've had since the death penalty. That's a sign that NFL coaches know that if a player has the basic tools in speed, etc., he is smart enough and polished enough to be worthy of a roster slot. I like the schedule for 2013. Whether we win or lose, we need to play a tough OOC to make writers take notice if we happen to run the BE someday.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:35 pm
by Rebel10
EastStang wrote:Pooh, pooh his coaching all you want, but we have more players in the NFL now than we've had since the death penalty. That's a sign that NFL coaches know that if a player has the basic tools in speed, etc., he is smart enough and polished enough to be worthy of a roster slot. I like the schedule for 2013. Whether we win or lose, we need to play a tough OOC to make writers take notice if we happen to run the BE someday.
BE is an Automatic Qualifier no need for a bunch of bodybag money games where players get overly banged up. I think we had a good amount of dings (DJ3 possible concussion, Hunt dinged, Gottschalk hurt etc.) in the Baylor game. First game should have been against SFA IMO. As far as taking notice, for what? Again, remember BE is an Automatic Qualifier and all SMU has to do is win the conference to get to a BCS Bowl. Wrong mentality now that SMU is in a BCS conference. But I guess they will take notice if SMU goes 0-4 or 1-3 in OOC. Be careful what you wish for because you are getting it some this year and a lot next year.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:54 pm
by ojaipony
Rebel10 wrote:
EastStang wrote:Pooh, pooh his coaching all you want, but we have more players in the NFL now than we've had since the death penalty. That's a sign that NFL coaches know that if a player has the basic tools in speed, etc., he is smart enough and polished enough to be worthy of a roster slot. I like the schedule for 2013. Whether we win or lose, we need to play a tough OOC to make writers take notice if we happen to run the BE someday.
BE is an Automatic Qualifier no need for a bunch of bodybag money games where players get overly banged up. I think we had a good amount of dings (DJ3 possible concussion, Hunt dinged, Gottschalk hurt etc.) in the Baylor game. First game should have been against SFA IMO. As far as taking notice, for what? Again, remember BE is an Automatic Qualifier and all SMU has to do is win the conference to get to a BCS Bowl. Wrong mentality now that SMU is in a BCS conference. But I guess they will take notice if SMU goes 0-4 or 1-3 in OOC. Be careful what you wish for because you are getting it some this year and a lot next year.
Bingo! Keno!

Not rocket science.

Re: Future OOC / 2013

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:05 pm
by Stallion
Fact is even if we keep ALL those teams our schedule won't be HALF as tough as TCU. Big East is not an automatic qualifier anymore. Plus you guys completely misunderstand why BCS schools play Paddy-Cakes. They do it because they can play 7 and even 8 home games before 80-100,000 fans at exorbident ticket prices. SMU can't get 18,000 unless we play schools that fans give a [deleted] about. 2 of the BCS schools used to be our [deleted]. One had losing record last year-another was .500. Guess this is the ultimate proof that recruiting really is predominant because we have the 2 Million Dollar Man-internationally known Coaching Genius going into his 6th year