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Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:Cowlishaw just took a 75000 ft. view of the program. "Oh, they aren't 1-11? June do good job. June stay, you dumb."

BleedingRed+Blue wrote:

mr. pony wrote:*We're no longer the laughing stock of college football?
You must've missed the Tulane game, the A&M game, the Baylor game. I know folks in Arkansas too. SMU is minor leagues, baby.

Yet you claim to be a "fan"?

mr. pony wrote:*JJ changed us from begging for a .500 season?
We were .500 in '06. JJ's best seasons here have been with Bennett's players.

How many bowls did Bennett reach with those players?

mr. pony wrote:*We still went to a bowl?
"Bowls" mean nothing anymore. Conference championships should be in the case by now.

There are two bowl championship trophies in the case now. If bowls mean nothing to you, please don't go, don't watch, and don't come on here to whine.

mr. pony wrote:*Less than a year ago this coach was untouchable?
Less than a year ago, this coach was out the door and reportedly recruiting players for ASU.

He was courted by a bigger BCS school who saw that he had won games at a school where many coaches had tried and failed. It is a part of the coaching business. Get over it and move on.

mr. pony wrote:Odd that you speak for all "folks outside of Texas."
And if JJ is underpaid, let him try to get hired in the Big 12.

Why? You're bent that he flirted with ASU, and now you're challenging him to get hired at a different BCS school? Makes no sense.

mr. pony wrote:JJ should be on the hot seat for his pitiful 4th and 5th years here. He's not because of our desperate rah-rahers.
Just sayin'.

No, he's not because he has done what four previous coaches -- including one Hall of Famer (Gregg) and one with major NFL experience (Rossley) -- couldn't do: win and reach bowl games. Nobody is satisfied with the record, including JJ, I expect. But while you blast the rah-rahers, you refuse to acknowledge that JJ has done some very good things, too.

mustangxc wrote:Moreover, June Jones has made SMU a much better job than it was when he got here. I am still upset about the way he handled the ASU fiasco, the losses to Tulane and Rice, and the disappointing recruiting, but lets give credit where it is due and not sound like a bunch of spoiled brats.

Fair on the credit, and long overdue on the idea that we need to stop sounding like spoiled brats.

DickerJames wrote:Several on this board need to get over the butt hurt of the ASU debacle. All of the b*thching and moaning is tiresome.

Amen. You're right on.

ponyte wrote:
With respect, I hope we can amicably agree to disagree.

mustangxc wrote: Now that we are mediocrewe have a ton of tough guy fans that are incensed that we are not competing evenly with Texas A&M and TCU?

Rebel10 wrote:

mustangxc wrote: Now that we are mediocrewe have a ton of tough guy fans that are incensed that we are not competing evenly with Texas A&M and TCU?

Had JJ not been recruiting for ASU while still at SMU the fan base would have given him a lot more grace that what he is getting now. When someone shoves your face in them mud you gen really don't just turn around and sing Kumbayah. When you find out what some thinks of you then you react accordingly one way or the other.

mustangxc wrote:

Rebel10 wrote:

mustangxc wrote: Now that we are mediocrewe have a ton of tough guy fans that are incensed that we are not competing evenly with Texas A&M and TCU?

Had JJ not been recruiting for ASU while still at SMU the fan base would have given him a lot more grace that what he is getting now. When someone shoves your face in them mud you gen really don't just turn around and sing Kumbayah. When you find out what some thinks of you then you react accordingly one way or the other.

Our administration did not react at the appropriate time so move on.

goldenstang wrote:I gave him a second chance after asu, it was this season. Other than the win over Tulsa he did nothing to impress me or win me over. Our offense is still terrible which he is completely in charge of. They come out looking completely flat and unprepared every time we play a big game. We have still only beaten 5 teams with winning records in 5 years. That's one a year for all the liberal arts majors. He is beating up on crappy teams just like he did at Hawaii. Forgive me but I cannot see how he is supposed to get us where we want to go if he cannot beat good teams. Also his recruiting is terrible.

No they did not. But we still know what JJ thinks of SMU. You need to face reality.

DickerJames wrote:

No they did not. But we still know what JJ thinks of SMU. You need to face reality.

I think everyone that is ranting about June and wants him fired needs to face the reality that its not going to happen. He didn't get fired after the ASU debacle, so he is CERTAINLY not going to get fired for a disappointing season that still ends with a bowl game.

Everyone needs to chill and let this thing play itself out. The fire June posts are meaningless.

sbsmith wrote:

DickerJames wrote:

No they did not. But we still know what JJ thinks of SMU. You need to face reality.

I think everyone that is ranting about June and wants him fired needs to face the reality that its not going to happen. He didn't get fired after the ASU debacle, so he is CERTAINLY not going to get fired for a disappointing season that still ends with a bowl game.

Everyone needs to chill and let this thing play itself out. The fire June posts are meaningless.

Fire June

DickerJames wrote: The fire June posts are meaningless.

sbsmith wrote:

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:Cowlishaw just took a 75000 ft. view of the program. "Oh, they aren't 1-11? June do good job. June stay, you dumb."

His views are shared by other clueless outsiders.